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Old 09-11-2009, 01:22 AM
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Build thread: 360, maybe 368

Started a teardown





not too bad so far. Block went to the machine shop today for a cleaning, checking, and some goodies...


"Junk" pile

Patiently waiting.


Why the old engine stopped running.

All this recently after I did this:


Which resulted in this:


Stuffed some goodies in there too. All new bearings, seals and brakes, rebuilt the Limited slip, stuffed it all back together with 4.10 gears.


Limited slip works realllllll good.

My current plans are stock 4.00" pistons (New), new cam, clean up the heads, polish the intake and exhaust ports, Headers, Intake, get some driveshafts built that won't self-destruct when I plant the gas, topped off with a 650cfm carb.

And go from there. I'm almost thinking about punching it out .030 over while its at the machine shop though.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:22 AM
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I'm open to advice for parts I should replace that I havn't listed. This is my first time and I don't know if I've forgotten anything.
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:30 PM
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This is my first time and I don't know if I've forgotten anything.

Wear a rubber......
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Old 09-22-2009, 09:31 PM
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Sounds good so far...
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:10 AM
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theres some .30 over pistons for sale on castanet here in kelowna for a 360 kieth black flat tops
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Old 09-23-2009, 05:55 PM
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I've got the same engine that I built up. I regret the hedders though, they leak and kind of suck ass. If you get hedders, you'll have to switch over to the nippondenso starter. There's another 300 bucks on top just for the starter.
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Old 09-24-2009, 12:54 AM
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have you put any $$ into that engine ? because i wonder how much it would cost to drop a cummins in there , I bought my parts truck for $2500
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Old 09-24-2009, 08:25 AM
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nice choice... i built the same motor a few years back and its still pumpin out tons of power!!.. boared over.40 keith black 10.1 pistons.. shaved down j heads put my compression around 11 to1 tell ya tho .. flux those heads!! i went through 5 pairs lookin for a set that wasent cracked!! best head you can find are the 302 ..castings for 318 motors..very small chamber heart shaped .. but hard too find..
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Old 09-24-2009, 06:56 PM
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I went with a .020 overbore, Flat top pistons, RV-style cam, Stock heads Rebuilt (They were ok, but I got them cleaned up). got a Weiand Stealth intake for it and Flowtech Long tubes, I don't know if I'll use em yet though. Gotta phone the machine shop tomorrow for the specs on the cam, I wasn't very happy today to phone them.

Just got the bill, $3400 Plus another $500 for the intake, headers, fuel pump, etc. johny you're right, I could have put a cummins in for alot cheaper. 440 too. I thought this was going to be the cheaper way to go but apparently I was wrong. At least I will have a stout engine now I hope.
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Old 09-25-2009, 12:57 PM
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dude where ya get it done? i got my whole short block done assembled and balanced machiend and tanked fluxed ect.. 1300$ including pistons!! 500$ for that intake .. bull shit.. tell them stuff it ill give ya my elde performer for now if ya like!!
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Old 09-25-2009, 02:08 PM
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Fuckin Lordco Machine shop. I wanted a stock style rebuild with some stuff and ended up with a fully rebuild everything

New Valves, rocker arms, rocker guide, posi lock seals, seats, stiffer springs, valve guides, and pushrods. I wanted more like new stock seals, new stock springs, and a 3-angle grind on the valves with new seats.

New .020 flat top pistons

New bearings

New crank (I wanted mine turned, not replaced)

New rings

new oil pump, timing set, gasket set.

Fucking machining and labour costs alone were $1400!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF!?!?

All they did was assemble my shortblock, didn't put my heads together either.

I've been a lifelong Lordco customer, never had a problem with the hope store until now, and they won't do anything to make it right.
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Old 09-27-2009, 12:48 PM
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I'd be choked too, if they were going to do a new crank, you might as well have gone with like you say, a big block, or even a big block stroker.

Because your mileage is going to be shitty anyways...
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:16 PM
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looks cheap to me.
only thing I have had lordco do was fuck me over on a set of SBC heads.
provided them with all comp cams valvetrain parts and new stainless manley valves and the asshats knurled the guides rather then replace them. drank oil like a mofo

what does "new crank" mean? they found a core that wasnt as fuked as yours?

I dont see anything 'extra' on that list.
if the heads needed rebuilt they needed new guides. if the guides are pooched so are the seats and valves so also required items.
chances are the seals and aftermarket springs are cheap and better then stock stuff.

New Valves, rocker arms, rocker guide, posi lock seals, seats, stiffer springs, valve guides, and pushrods. I wanted more like new stock seals, new stock springs, and a 3-angle grind on the valves with new seats.

New .020 flat top pistons

New bearings - !required for a rebuild!

New crank (I wanted mine turned, not replaced)

New rings- !required for a rebuild!

new oil pump, timing set, gasket set. ! required for a rebuild!
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Old 09-27-2009, 05:48 PM
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Last time I priced out a jobber stock spec long block, it was alot cheaper than 3400.
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Old 09-27-2009, 07:05 PM
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IF I had been told that the heads were fucked, I would have said "screw it" and bought a 440.

And before any, ANY work was done I asked him the condition of the heads, Block, Crank, and Connecting rods. This is why I was not prepared for a $3400 bill.

All the block stuff I was prepared for, and I have no problem with that. I'm just trying to find out where $1700 of head work came from.
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