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Old 09-13-2012, 09:31 PM
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VHF

I'm looking into getting a handheld VHF radio. something for logging roads, boating, hiking etc. Who knows about these? any recommendations?

Is there a difference between marine and land?
can a consumer model pick up the commercial logging signals?
what else to be looking into?

something like this maybe?
http://www.standardhorizon.com/index... &isArchived=0
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:21 PM
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There is Marine radio, Amature radio and Commercial radio.

Marine radios have fixed frequencies and usually can't be programmed outside those presets.

Amature radio, you take a one time course and you are licensed for life.
Amature radios are capable of monitoring the entire VHF band between 136 and 174Mhz but are only capable of broadcasting between 144? 146? and 148Mhz.
Users are capable of changing the FREQUENCY they are either listening to or monitoring. There are no CHANNELS per se' on an amature radio


Commercial VHF (like the radio you indicated) does not require any training course but does require an annual license ($48.00 a year payable to the govenment of Canada for each VHF radio you have)

These radios are capable of broadcasting and receiving on any frequency between 136 and 174 so long as that FREQUENCY is programmed into one of the CHANNELS on the radio by a qualified radio shop.

Industry Canada does not want end users capable of programming their own commercial radios in the commercial bands because of the interferance that can result. Imagine the radio communication to a fire truck enroute to a life or death call being blocked by a coule of guys discussing how drunk they were the night previous... Those two fellows would not even know they are causing interference.

So, how does it work for logging road frequencies?
Well, you are supposed to get a wrighten letter of permission from the frequency holder of the frequency for the area you want to travel in, have a radio shop program in the frequency to your radio and you are then good to go. If you happen to run into a road frequency that is not in your radio, you then have to go through the process again with the letter and the radio shop...


Well, that really sux...

Real world: Most wind up skipping the whole license thing (except the amature license. Worth while to get that.) and find them selfs either a commercial radio that can be programmed via the front face or an "open" amature radio.

The penalties if you happen to get caught are $250-$500 fine and immediate forfeture of your radio gear.

So, how do you keep from getting caught?
Don't be stupid....
Educate yourself on the various programming steps for your radio and what they would affect before you key up that mic. If someone comes on and says you should not be on a frequency, apologise profusly and beat it to a "safe" frequency like LAD2 (the only frequency that can be used in the entire province. LAD 1 is not supposed to be used in the lower mainland or south of Nanaimo)

Listen to the way other users are operating their radios and follow the same pattern. Some road users choose to use the "loaded" and "empty" others use "up" and "down" and don't tie up the channel with a pile of chatter.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:40 AM
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i have icom V80s for sale 150 each brand new in the box.........they would be perfect for what you want

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http://www.icomcanada.com/products/a...ur_ic-v80.html

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Old 09-14-2012, 08:01 AM
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Some good info.

For awhile the DOT was taking everyones radios that didnt have a license.

Ive had several radios "loaded up" with channels from my local radio shop.
They had most of the channels used in BC and northern Alberta.
Didnt cost much.

Industry standard for calling your miles is "up" and "down".
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Smile Logging Truck Radios !

I used to Service & Repair Logging Equipment & Skidders in the East & West
Kootenays, Western Alberta & the ocasianal trip into U.S.A.
Every Logging Company had thier own Radio Frequency, so I kept my own
list of numbers that had been programed into the V H F Radio in the service
truck, made life a lot safer when meeting a loaded logging truck on a narrow
logging acess road, as I turned off Hiway i called out the Company Name,
Location I was Heading for, Description & Colour of truck etc, and I would always get at least one reply thanking me for the information!!. And I always
travelled with Headlights on before it BECAME LAW.
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ive got a Kenwood tm 281a . love the direct frequency entry. Meaning you dont have to have preprogramed channels and your not sol if your in a different area that you dont have the channels preprogamed for.
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I used to Service & Repair Logging Equipment & Skidders in the East & West
Kootenays, Western Alberta & the ocasianal trip into U.S.A.
Every Logging Company had thier own Radio Frequency, so I kept my own
list of numbers that had been programed into the V H F Radio in the service
truck, made life a lot safer when meeting a loaded logging truck on a narrow
logging acess road, as I turned off Hiway i called out the Company Name,
Location I was Heading for, Description & Colour of truck etc, and I would always get at least one reply thanking me for the information!!. And I always
travelled with Headlights on before it BECAME LAW.
Headlights on? What u talking about Willis?
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ive got a Kenwood tm 281a . love the direct frequency entry. Meaning you dont have to have preprogramed channels and your not sol if your in a different area that you dont have the channels preprogamed for.
thats a great feature
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thats a great feature
I have some 281s
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Headlights on? What u talking about Willis?
One can only assume that you don't have Lights on your "RICKSHAW" !!!.
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Hey j20 are those handhelds. Looking for a handheld for when I leave the jeep
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Hey j20 are those handhelds. Looking for a handheld for when I leave the jeep

pm me i have hand helds also
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