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xtremeyj
02-13-2009, 04:58 PM
just a wee little set of 33's to climb.

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OldEnuff
02-13-2009, 05:27 PM
Very Nice [36]

StinkFinger
02-13-2009, 05:32 PM
loos like the air shock is hitting the frame in the back

89yj
02-13-2009, 06:46 PM
Looks good but I have to ask, what is the rope tying down in the last picture?

94' Blazer
02-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Lookin good..

D-Ass
02-13-2009, 06:57 PM
89yj Looks good but I have to ask, what is the rope tying down in the last picture?


hahaha :confused0006:


that's it man why even try my vw golf can flex more than that ;)



[cheers]

xtremeyj
02-13-2009, 07:30 PM
haha, that rope would be holding down my engine, and a strap would be holding it up, my engine mount bolts sheared off in my block and still have not got around to usin the easy outs to get new bolts in.

and by the way, if ya noticed the front has not even started to flex out.

4Lo
02-13-2009, 07:37 PM
Somebody needs to build some skid plates:cool:

xtremeyj
02-13-2009, 07:52 PM
Somebody needs to build some skid plates:cool:

yup, next project. need some plate steel

The fuzz
02-13-2009, 08:22 PM
great pics man[cheers] looks good

epic3
02-13-2009, 08:50 PM
and by the way, if ya noticed the front has not even started to flex out.

Shouldnt it have?
you've maxed the rear travel there I'd think you would want some flex out of the front before the rear maxes out:dontknow:

UU
02-13-2009, 09:26 PM
you still using straps instead of u-bolts on your d-shafts ?

otherwise; nice flex posser boy [cheers]

Kraqa
02-14-2009, 03:58 PM
i'd brace those rear shock hoops. and move the mount or notch the frame. thats a good way to ruin a set of AS the first time out.

also. try running more oil in those rear air shocks. with CO's in the front the front will never work till it HAS to then it will flex and that will result in a unstable rig.

or a rear sway bar.

looking good tho!!

Kraqa
02-14-2009, 03:59 PM
if you look at the pic it looks as though your actually bending the AIR shock.

Happypants
02-14-2009, 04:28 PM
Nice pics man, did that pitman arm help with the draglink angle?
And I got my jeep all fixed up,

dirka dave
02-14-2009, 06:14 PM
Looks good dude !!

xtremeyj
02-15-2009, 10:31 AM
Nice pics man, did that pitman arm help with the draglink angle?
And I got my jeep all fixed up,

Ya man its all good. Thanks dude.

theborges
02-15-2009, 12:12 PM
looks good man. nice to see it all working, still some bugs but will always have that.

Tinker
02-15-2009, 01:00 PM
haha, that rope would be holding down my engine, and a strap would be holding it up, my engine mount bolts sheared off in my block and still have not got around to usin the easy outs to get new bolts in.

and by the way, if ya noticed the front has not even started to flex out.

I got the same problem in my Yj. What's your plan to get em out? Experienced with this? Could ya help a brotha out and give me some advice?

darwyn haller
02-15-2009, 03:36 PM
Looks good man!! Very nice pic...[36]

xtremeyj
02-15-2009, 05:26 PM
just finished channeling out the frame to clear the shock travel. Ill see how it works now.

stevem
02-15-2009, 11:24 PM
whats the spring rate up front, looks to be a little stiff,IMO

Happypants
02-15-2009, 11:29 PM
Ya man its all good. Thanks dude.

good to hear [cheers]

Kraqa
02-15-2009, 11:46 PM
whats the spring rate up front, looks to be a little stiff,IMO

his spring rate is fine in the front.

its the rear Air Shocks. he neeeds a rear swap bar.

mixing CO's and AS is a bad idea. when you do it if you don't want to run a sway bar you need to run the AS in the front and the CO's in the rear. running CO's in the rear kind of defeats the purpose because you loose all the benfits of running them in the first place.

Kraqa
02-15-2009, 11:46 PM
just finished channeling out the frame to clear the shock travel. Ill see how it works now.


sweet post up the pics.

stevem
02-16-2009, 12:48 AM
his spring rate is fine in the front.

its the rear Air Shocks. he neeeds a rear swap bar.

mixing CO's and AS is a bad idea. when you do it if you don't want to run a sway bar you need to run the AS in the front and the CO's in the rear. running CO's in the rear kind of defeats the purpose because you loose all the benfits of running them in the first place.

i think your wrong because if you matched them properly it would flex more in the front not stay flat and only flex in the rear,kindof like my 4runner did with the IFS before the SAS.

even the air shocks have a "spring rate" even if there are no springs and if matched properly would work just fine.

i took alot of time for me to calculate what i was gonna run for spring rates on my 4runner,i can now tuck 44" boggers and have an under tire measurement of 42" at full(street pressure),and ride height roof line measurement is 7ft 3 inches, and headlamps are 2" under max allowed by inspection standards.

Kraqa
02-16-2009, 10:44 AM
Dude I could care less about your RTI score or your roof height and the fact that you have a runner of 44” boggers ……..


I know how an AS works. An air shock has an exponential spring rate due to the fact that it is compressed gas, not a coil which is consistent. For that very reason it will always want to unload faster then a coil. You can change the weight of the oil or the valving in the AS to help with this but you cannot eliminate it.

Yes he could go with a softer coil in the front. In that case he would have to go with a longer coil OR change the height of the collar. If he changes the collar height then it will mostlikly un seat and he will have to run a tender coil to help align the coil. But again…..the AS will always unload faster then the CO. if you run a softer and longer spring it puts the spring out of its element and compresses it to much. The spring will eventually loose its original length and will not stretch back. Resulting in your spring un seating.

The spring rate extreme has is matched very well to his rig to handle the weight.

Either way, you will not get AS’s to flex at the same rate as a CO. end of story plain and simple.