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nbrowser
12-10-2008, 08:37 PM
Ok, now this should I hope awaken the Jeep gods on the forum here....

I own a Jeep, it's a '89 XJ Pioneer with the dreaded and now screwed up french built BA-10....

I wanna pop a AX-15 in to it's place.

Done some research but as we all know, there's a few of guys around here that could either save me money by tellin me I don't need this, don't neeed that, or tell me straight up that I"m on crack or it's possible and you never know, I could be very well buying parts from certain places (no, not that place by the Albion ferry as I dread mentioning the name)

Let the ideas flow here. I"m all eyes n ears !

CromeY
12-10-2008, 08:47 PM
i say swap it i belive i have one sitting in my back yard to :P

nbrowser
12-10-2008, 08:48 PM
Cromey, I think I need stuff from a '96 or newer Cherokee....

CromeY
12-12-2008, 03:50 PM
i belive its one

England
12-12-2008, 04:01 PM
AWAIT THE ANSWER OF THE MIGHTY NUTBAR !!!!

ROBO
12-12-2008, 04:02 PM
yup your on crack

Happypants
12-12-2008, 04:22 PM
96 and newer? your after an external slave arnt ya!

Nutbar
12-12-2008, 09:36 PM
If you use one from an 89-93 there will be no messing around with the clutch as it is still the internal slave 94 and newer are external slave which will require a clutch mod you will either need to add the later master and hydrolic line or get some adapter fittings and a -3 braided line to connect the external slave to the early master

you will need the cross member and tranny mount as well as the pivot point for the Tcase bell crank moves you will have to redrill the floor bracket while the tranny is out

I think it was in 94 when they changed the slave the pilot bearing snub also changed size so if you use the later tranny you have to also use the later pilot bearing but you will have to get it from Chrysler because the bearing on the later one is a 2 piece unit, there is a large metal collar that fits in the end of the crank as well as the bearing and race, the parts store ones only supply you with the bearing/race they don't have the metal collar insert

you can also still use your existing Tcase all you really need to change is the input shaft if you get the 23 spline input from an earlier 231 you can just swap it into yours

you will also need both the tranny shifter, Tcase linkage and bracket from the AX/15

xtremeyj
12-13-2008, 08:02 AM
Sounds like an awfull lot of work for what ya get

CromeY
12-13-2008, 08:24 AM
no shit

jeepxj89
12-18-2008, 05:08 PM
its not a lot of work at all if you get one from an early 90s truck. the ax-15 is super strong, the ba-10 is a piece of junk and i would never considering wheeling with one.

xtremeyj
12-18-2008, 11:07 PM
. the ax-15 is super strong, the ba-10 is a piece of junk and i would never considering wheeling with one.

I agree completely with that, I still got my ax-15 and have no plans on changin that. Its probably the only thing "jeep" left in my rig.

dh_4_ever
12-20-2008, 02:00 AM
i blew one of dem up haha. if you go with a 89-93 you can also use the stock pilot without modification. if you go 93 or newer, get some .020 shim stock and some slevloc compound, make a shim around the 93 bearing ( the pilot is bigger, but the outer bearing diameter is smaller) the pre 93 bearing size in the crank 1.051" after 93, its 1.000" (easier to machine I would be thinking) you wont be able to get a .025 shim in without damage, but using slevloc will fill the gaps and work no problem (both my 89 cherokee, and wifes 89 comanche have newer ax-15's in em, the comanche has a 96)

bigblueford
12-20-2008, 12:43 PM
here is idea its a heep burn it

xtremeyj
12-20-2008, 01:05 PM
here is idea its a heep burn it

Yer just jealous we can go where you cant.:happy0045: :happy0045:

Happypants
12-20-2008, 02:27 PM
like fords are soo much better,

dirka dave
12-20-2008, 05:38 PM
Burn it...then buy a Toyota.

nbrowser
12-20-2008, 07:09 PM
Well, since it's gonna cost a small fortune to do an AX-15 swap right now, I"m gonna look for a BA-10 to make it driveable for a short while. And at this writing, I'm preppin to head off to Winnipeg to spend xmas with the family so that's gonna suck some cash outta the kitty for a while.....

Tinker
12-20-2008, 07:23 PM
You gotta go to Winterpeg and you've got a BA10. Man could your life get any worse?:happy0045:

nbrowser
12-20-2008, 07:32 PM
Not taking the busted Jeep :) Gonna be drivin my '89 Buick Century with a strong 3.3 V6 and 4T60E trans albeit with 377,000K on it lol