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rmiller026
10-14-2008, 01:50 PM
if you were to get a dana 44 for a half ton ford 5 bolt could it be switched to 3/4 ton and would it be costly

m j
10-14-2008, 02:00 PM
you would need the knuckles out from a 3/4 ton
costly? depends how much you get the parts for dunnit.
also the ford 3/4 ton brakes are huger then the 1/2 ton stuff so you might wanna upgrade your master

Cheese eyes
10-14-2008, 02:58 PM
why not get a 1 ton dana 44 ? ? ? :dontknow: :dontknow:

Bigsexy
10-14-2008, 03:03 PM
ynot just get the HDd44 then.. already comes with 8lug outers and will have the leafmounts already instead of coilbuckets..
my guess is that it will cost a few hundred to swap over.. ( ur probly guna want to get new BJs if ur swapping it out anyways) an then the labour..( if u cant do it urself) + new "used" parts.. [cheers]

spitty
10-14-2008, 03:41 PM
ive got a set of knuckles laying around somewhere from a 3/4 ton, although im not to sure if they are different from half ton to 3/4

rmiller026
10-14-2008, 03:50 PM
well my trucks a 3/4 but i just cant afford the 1200 for a 60 so i want to swap the 44 in cuz its cheep then when it breaks i can learn how to fix it does anyone have one of these axels cuz there a lil hard to find

spitty
10-14-2008, 05:45 PM
well my trucks a 3/4 but i just cant afford the 1200 for a 60 so i want to swap the 44 in cuz its cheep then when it breaks i can learn how to fix it does anyone have one of these axels cuz there a lil hard to find
check bc4x4, theres usually a couple on there, what gears do you need?

Ginger Snaps
10-14-2008, 06:00 PM
ok wowowow its a 3/4 ton allready why would you wanna put in a 1/2 ton 44 when you have a 3/4ton unless its ifs..just save for a 60 nuff said

Bigsexy
10-14-2008, 07:19 PM
HD D44[f]

m j
10-14-2008, 07:58 PM
ive got a set of knuckles laying around somewhere from a 3/4 ton, although im not to sure if they are different from half ton to 3/4

they are different.
do you have the brake caliper brackets? I need some as the previous owner ground mine to fit 15" rims and wrecked them

spitty
10-14-2008, 08:14 PM
they are different.
do you have the brake caliper brackets? I need some as the previous owner ground mine to fit 15" rims and wrecked them
sorry dont got any, got rid of em quite awhile ago

Ginger Snaps
10-14-2008, 10:15 PM
why not just save and fucking buy a 60 dont fuck around do it once do it right ask any fullsize owner that wheels there shit DANA60!!!!!

spitty
10-14-2008, 10:22 PM
dana44's arnt that bad of an axle, you wont break em if you dont abuse them, to get a decent dana 60 you'd have to spend approx $800-1200, to buy a complete 3/4 ton d44 would cost you under 200 if you look around, although i get this feeling it would be cheaper to buy a complete one than it would be to build one out of a 1/2ton 44.

rmiller026
10-15-2008, 07:06 AM
dana44's arnt that bad of an axle, you wont break em if you dont abuse them, to get a decent dana 60 you'd have to spend approx $800-1200, to buy a complete 3/4 ton d44 would cost you under 200 if you look around, although i get this feeling it would be cheaper to buy a complete one than it would be to build one out of a 1/2ton 44.


see thats my thought a 44 is so cheep for the price of a 60 i could get a 44 swap it in do gears in my rear end and lock the front and if i put cromoly shafts in it they wouldnt be that bad this truck isnt what i want forever its just something to learn on then go blow some moner on something decent that i dont wanna smack against trees

m j
10-15-2008, 05:33 PM
I was destroying axleshafts with 35"-38"tires on a d44hp
swapped in Yukons and that seemed to stop the breakage there
killed a warn hub and the shock seems to have taken out the detroit.
that is in a 78 bronco d44 with 3/4ton 8lug outers
I have lotsa $$ in it now
I still have a box full of new parts from when I was going to fix it.
new spindles, bearings, seals, spindle nuts, warn hubs....still need to tear it down to see whats left of the locker
d44s are not much cheaper then d60s other then the initial purchase price
the difference is you dont have to repair the d60 constantly
if you keep tire size down to 35" or so and run the chromo shafts it should survive
if you ever see yourself on 38"+ tires then any money spent on a d44 is a waste in the long term

rmiller026
10-15-2008, 05:52 PM
trucks going on 37s im not going to pound the shit right out of it

Ginger Snaps
10-15-2008, 08:00 PM
i still see axle shafts and ujoints in your future

m j
10-15-2008, 09:12 PM
don't even try stock shafts on 37s
maybe with an open front dif they will last a while but they would still be a time bomb

rmiller026
10-16-2008, 06:52 AM
i still see axle shafts and ujoints in your future
how else do i learn skinny:confused0006:


u kno u could allways gimme ur 60

In The Zone
10-17-2008, 07:06 AM
they are different.
do you have the brake caliper brackets? I need some as the previous owner ground mine to fit 15" rims and wrecked them

i have a set for you and other assorted parts from my old hd 44[cheers]

spitty
10-17-2008, 07:14 AM
i know a couple guys who run d44's and 10bolts one 37''+ tires and dont have too many problems with them, all you have to do is leave it open, and dont beet on it

rmiller026
10-17-2008, 07:32 AM
i know a couple guys who run d44's and 10bolts one 37''+ tires and dont have too many problems with them, all you have to do is leave it open, and dont beet on it


thats the plan

jeepxj89
10-17-2008, 01:29 PM
dana 44's arent that bad. i had one in my last xj with 36's and i never broke anything, and i wasnt light on the throttle either.

friend of mine ran one in a yj with a 350, th350 and np231 and chromo shafts. if anyone has seen curty drive they know hes not easy on his shit. never broke one

Happypants
10-17-2008, 01:36 PM
dana 44's arent that bad. i had one in my last xj with 36's and i never broke anything, and i wasnt light on the throttle either.

friend of mine ran one in a yj with a 350, th350 and np231 and chromo shafts. if anyone has seen curty drive they know hes not easy on his shit. never broke one

true dat!

rmiller026
10-17-2008, 02:21 PM
now who has one????

Bronco Boy
10-17-2008, 02:22 PM
Here's my $.02.....

I ran 35's on my TTB about 4 years and never broke anything in the front axle.

Then I did a D44 SAS (same 35’s) and ran that for 4 years and never broke anything in the front axle.

I've been on 36 iRok's (measure @ 37") and am on my fourth axle joint in 2 years. Why? The snap rings walk out and the caps follows..…bang!

As much as I want to go D60, time and money don't permit it at this time. I have US Alloy 4340 inner shafts on order and already have Yukon 4340 outer's installed.

I used to leave the front ARB off as I thought that being open would make the axle shafts life a little easier, but was recently told that by being locked is a bit easier, as the shaft doesn't see the shock of traction/no traction/traction/no traction from the diff. Granted, you could argue the exact same thing about being locked, but now the traction/no traction would be at the wheel end (the ground).

With all that being said, I am very light on the throttle, and some may even call me a pussy, but that is just how I drive off-road. You may get away with your 37's and D44 for a short time, but just be sure to have spare axle shafts loaded and ready to go in. And have a set of balljoints on hand too, cuz when that joint goes it can take out one or both of the joints. My buddy found that out the hard way:

http://chrisb.users.superford.org/Bronco/Trip_Reports/2005/July_10-05_@_Harrison_West_09.JPG

http://chrisb.users.superford.org/Bronco/Trip_Reports/2005/July_10-05_@_Harrison_West_10.JPG

rmiller026
10-17-2008, 03:28 PM
thatnks chris ouch to the pics looks like hes running 40s thoe :dontknow:

Bronco Boy
10-17-2008, 03:32 PM
thatnks chris ouch to the pics looks like hes running 40s thoe :dontknow:
Nope, 36" iRok's, which are now on my junk:

http://chrisb.users.superford.org/Bronco/Trip_Reports/2008/August_30-08_@_Norrish_Creek_086.JPG



We swapped rear axle's, front outers and tires/wheels before he sold it. I've been lucky and only grenaded the shafts and joints, and the Moog ball joints are lifetime warranty.