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FordMclovin
10-09-2008, 07:33 PM
Hey
Just wondering what would be better a fully done 351w or a 460. I am planning a 78 f150 ranger bogger on 44 boggers.
I think the 351w done up would be better because its lighter but I am new at this. This is my 1st project

spitty
10-09-2008, 07:35 PM
imo couple hundred pounds doesnt make a difference on a fullsize mud bogger.... plus it makes you hit hard pack sooner:dontknow:

FordMclovin
10-09-2008, 07:55 PM
K. Will a f150 frame be okay with a 460. I heard it is weaker then a 250 or 350 am I correct

nbrowser
10-09-2008, 07:58 PM
Just box the frame.....it'll help

SquirreL-E
10-09-2008, 07:59 PM
just go get an F350 with a 460, and you'll be fine, f150 = garbage =)

gordwould
10-09-2008, 08:01 PM
what axles you runnin?
and the fram should be fine since its old school ford

FordMclovin
10-09-2008, 08:04 PM
Really I love the 150 rangers its my all time fav truck.
So a 460 may not be a good idea in this truck?

caveman
10-09-2008, 08:05 PM
I have a 429 in my f150 and its been great lots of power for movin mud.

spitty
10-09-2008, 08:08 PM
unless you're getting ALOT of power out of that 460, i doubt you'd ever have a horsepower related problem with the frame, but what you do have to watch is what axles you put under it. if its a d44, it probably wont hold up very well to a big block

FordMclovin
10-09-2008, 08:17 PM
I am going to find a d60 to put under the frame. What if one reinforce the frame because I would rebuild the 460 with a friend who does this for a job so I can learn.

Redneck Lincoln
10-09-2008, 09:41 PM
all i have ever owned are 78-79 f150-f250's, the frame WILL handle the 460 with no problem at all. f150 and f250 frames are almost identical. most of the difference is in the front cross member area from the cab forward. all depend on what kind of wheelin you want to do, what gears your gonna run, etc. just remember there is no replacement for displacement!!lol

FordMclovin
10-09-2008, 09:59 PM
i would like to make a pretty wicked bogger but I was thinking maybe just a snow queen and power lines and stuff like that and build a big truck. With the odd bogs too pull my friends out :)

mark
10-11-2008, 06:58 PM
go 460. i built my f 250 on 42s and put a moderatly built 351w in and its ok for me because i dont do much mud and i have dual t cases. but if i were to do it again especially if i was going to do much mud, a 460 built up a bit would definitly be my choice. mud=horsepower=wheelspin.

Ginger Snaps
10-11-2008, 07:22 PM
imo couple hundred pounds doesnt make a difference on a fullsize mud bogger.... plus it makes you hit hard pack sooner:dontknow:

couple hundred pounds do make all the diffrence..


Id go with the 460 all you have to do is make them breath and you get power..get a 460 from the late 70s do headers,intake,carb and exhuast right away..The 351 will have to work way harder to move the rig...

your frame will be fine the 70s ford frames are one of the toughest frames ever built. Keep in mind you want your rig light do not add pointless metal when its not needed. you want floatation and wheel speed for boggen you dont wanna sink like the titanic[cheers]

spitty
10-11-2008, 08:14 PM
couple hundred pounds do make all the diffrence..


Id go with the 460 all you have to do is make them breath and you get power..get a 460 from the late 70s do headers,intake,carb and exhuast right away..The 351 will have to work way harder to move the rig...

your frame will be fine the 70s ford frames are one of the toughest frames ever built. Keep in mind you want your rig light do not add pointless metal when its not needed. you want floatation and wheel speed for boggen you dont wanna sink like the titanic[cheers]
ive never had a problem with weight in my truck, i find it does better offroad with a few hundred pounds in it. if you drive a toyota or jeep i could see a few hundred pounds making a big difference but not in a fullsize

Ginger Snaps
10-12-2008, 02:43 AM
sorry but ripen a stocker around stave dosnt count no affence or anything, dosnt matter any vehicle lighter=better floatation and wheelspeed are your bestfriend.

and ill leave it at that

Bigsexy
10-12-2008, 10:41 AM
[iagree]... go witha bigblock tho.. more Hp=funner times[cheers]

Reeseman
10-13-2008, 10:06 PM
I put a 429 in a f150 and the truck did ok. Make sure you are running a 44 and a 9 inch though.

spitty
10-13-2008, 10:37 PM
sorry but ripen a stocker around stave dosnt count no affence or anything, dosnt matter any vehicle lighter=better floatation and wheelspeed are your bestfriend.

and ill leave it at that
my truck isnt stock, and im pretty sure its been way more places than your truck

Ginger Snaps
10-13-2008, 10:45 PM
you sure about that...

snowman
10-14-2008, 12:14 PM
Go Big! drama

Ginger Snaps
10-14-2008, 12:33 PM
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hornythrony
10-17-2008, 05:56 AM
hey just think about it this way when you get those big tires stuck or about to get stuck and your in 2nd or 3rd even the 351 you will need to down shift cuz of power issuse and loose momentom and probibly get stuck with the 460 you just hit the throttle harder and power your way through the hole or over the obstickle. its always better to got bigger and stonger and not need it then go small time and need it and wish you just did it right the first time. i had a 460 from a 70 lincon in my 93 F150 with around 360-380hp with 40 boggers and still had the 8.8 in the rear and HPD44 in the front but i had to be very careful with it cuz i spun the axle tube twice on the rear diff and you go throught alot of front axle crosses and axle due to snapping them and i have the lightest foot of all my friends. good luck with the build and injoy the truck once its done [cheers]

hornythrony
10-17-2008, 05:57 AM
oh yeah and dont for get the pictures :D [36]