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nonhighwayservice
07-26-2007, 09:23 PM
I'm thinkin of buying a '04 F-350 with the 6.0L. I have liked some of the older diesels, but am not too familar with the newer ones. Are they any good, does anyone have one?

Deathtrap
07-26-2007, 09:34 PM
6.0 is garbage go find a 7.3, Driven both as works trucks, you gotta rev the snot outta the 6L to get it movin, the 7.3 the tq is down low 1500rpmish, the 6L is closer to 2000rpm. Theres a reason the 7.3 was around for over a decade and the 6L didnt even last more than 4 years.

nonhighwayservice
07-26-2007, 09:47 PM
yeah I always liked the 7.3, but do they still come in the new trucks?

get stuck
07-27-2007, 12:24 AM
my dads truck is a 2002 ford f350 with a 7.3 it has about 230 000 kms on it and it still runs awsome .we know ppl with the 6L that have had the 7.3 an dthey all liked the 7.3 better. just my 2 cents

PowerStroke
07-27-2007, 12:49 AM
6.0 is garbage go find a 7.3, Driven both as works trucks, you gotta rev the snot outta the 6L to get it movin, the 7.3 the tq is down low 1500rpmish, the 6L is closer to 2000rpm. Theres a reason the 7.3 was around for over a decade and the 6L didnt even last more than 4 years.

are you fucking high? the 6.0 out performs the 7.3 torque and horsepower hands down, i would know i own a 6.0 and driven more than a few 7.3's

7.3 ---- its a slug, reliable yes indeed.

but to the snot reving my truck stock was alot faster than 7.3 hands down....

now my truck has exhaust and a good chip tune im at like 800 torque and like 460 HP.

4doorShorty
07-27-2007, 08:28 AM
7.3 ended in 2003. I have never driver a Superduty 7.3, (did own a 96 powerstroke) but I have driven a 6.0L and they haul ass quite well, you do have to feed em some more RPM but eh, they boogie.

blacker_69
07-27-2007, 10:11 AM
first off head gaskets, oil cooler, egr cooler, pull apart the turbo and intake and de-coke it along with the egr valve. then put in an egr block off plate and an aftermarket turbo then it might be reliable. stick with the 7.3 i know i work at a dealership

Mud Slinging Dumb Fawker
07-27-2007, 05:03 PM
first off head gaskets, oil cooler, egr cooler, pull apart the turbo and intake and de-coke it along with the egr valve. then put in an egr block off plate and an aftermarket turbo then it might be reliable. stick with the 7.3 i know i work at a dealership

i work at the ford dealer in kelowna and all the 6.0l suck ass go with a 7.3 or the new 6.4

blacker_69
07-27-2007, 06:24 PM
its a bad design mostly, bad electronics al together not a great package although finning and international equpiment that run the 6.0 dont seem to have and problems with the de-tuned versions.

hey aj im pulling my first cab on a 6.4. no fuel, prob hig pressure pump. only way to access anything on these is to pull cabs.

think im on my 15th or so set of headgaskets/egr cooler/oil cooler/ turbo clean on the 6.0l so far this year.dont pull cabs on em either and get em done in about 18 hours just heads. i wouldnt mind buying one because i can fix it for cheap but when your joe blow on hte street and need lets say 5 injectors come fall? at about 900 a piece retail plus labour? gets a lil
expensive.

if you want a 7.3 you can go to mexico where they are still selling them brand new.... no emission laws.

kootenaycat
07-27-2007, 10:36 PM
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hey aj im pulling my first cab on a 6.4. no fuel, prob hig pressure pump. only way to access anything on these is to pull cabs.

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It'll be a cold day in hell when I buy a truck that the easiest (only?) way to pull heads or engine is to lift the cab off the frame. Saw a buddy at the local Ford dealer (where I used to work) pulling a 6.0 out of a truck, cab in the air. What the hell is wrong with automotive engineers in the last 10 years? I've worked at new car dealers all my life, Ford, Toyota and Subaru. Recently went to work at a non dealer repair shop, and see that all of the manufactures are the same. I think Dodge is still the easiest to work on, and after being a Chevy guy all my life, will be buying a Dodge when I can afford a newer truck. At least you can acutually work on the back of the engine without putting a bodylift in, well up to '02 anyways, haven't seen any of the new ones, hemi, etc.

PowerStroke
07-27-2007, 10:53 PM
i agree they are a big shitty hassle riddled with problems... still love it tho... fucking thing hauls so much ass... i love my black cloud of particulate smoke.

blacker_69
07-27-2007, 11:48 PM
careful, you chip em , you kill em simple as that. you will i gaurantee you need heads gaskets after the oil cooler fails, takes out hte egr cooler then over heats the sons bitch and the turbo sticks and oveboosts and stretchs the head bolts and blows the gaskets.... etc. take the chip out. becuase of that chip your repair WILL be retail sorry to say and it will be at least 30 hours and few grand parts. althought then you could get em to pull the cab install stud kit with copper seal gaskets and you cookin!

FZJ80
07-28-2007, 06:26 AM
I have 3 friends that work for Ford as mechanics, " Sick-liters" is what they call them, run away!

jakerngr
07-28-2007, 06:50 AM
both are way better than a duramax lol

4doorShorty
07-28-2007, 08:08 AM
I drove a duramax ('07 6.6L with 9000km on it) for the first time ever last week....what a friggin piece, from what Ive heard them cracked up to be, it sure wasnt anything like I expected. The turbo lag seemed like it lasted forever, bottoming out the go pedal was very dissapointing....it would give a little tiny pull that I will call more of a jerk, but then the pulling stopped.
So jakes right, both are way better than a duramax

WagoneerXJ
07-28-2007, 10:30 AM
Buddy of mine owned a 6.0L Ford diesel. It had just over 86,000 kms, and was on it's 2nd engine, and 3rd set of heads. I suggest staying away from these. Although his did have a chip, programer, bigger turbo and exhaust.....I'm sure that had somethin to do with it.

blacker_69
07-28-2007, 06:41 PM
agreed, both the 7.3 and 6.0 were the big dogs for there time as in power and torque but with these new engine out now, the new dirtymax, the powersmoker 6.4 and the new 6.7 cummins its a new age of diesel.... emmision motors..... can anyone say 351m hahah

shoobear
07-28-2007, 09:22 PM
Hey i had a 7.3 with a HUGE chip,exhaust,intake....
I now have a 6.0L....my 7.3 hauls ass!
This 6L will not get a chip, they cant take a chip.
Hands down the chipped 7.3 kicked the 6.0L
The 6 L is fine as long as u dont chip them.

Troy
07-28-2007, 10:46 PM
emmision motors..... can anyone say 351m hahah

its 1978 all over again:confused0006:


ive talked to quite a few tow truck drivers and almost all of them say the 7.3L / zf 5speed is the best engine and all of their the 6.0L auto's have all been in the shop already.This is coming from one guy who has the last older truck in the fleet which is a 97 f350 and has it serviced regularely and had something like 400,000 km on it. Time will tell how good the 6.4L twin turbo is. The 6.0L powerjokes are pretty quick though...

jakerngr
07-29-2007, 09:00 AM
I would buy an 05+ 6.0 they seem to have more of the new motor issues worked out than when the first came out. I have a feeling the first couple of years of the 6.4 will be the same..the 7.3 had problems when it first came in ford's too. everything needs some reserch and developement.. unfortunately the real world reaserch comes from us the customer's thats what the warranty is for.. I would still buy a ford with my eyes closed before a chev or a dodge. (nothing agains the cummins) they are a good motor but not even close to the power of a 6.0 i dont care what anyone says. I drove both within the same day. dodge is a smaller truck overall too.

Ginger Snaps
07-29-2007, 09:28 AM
agree with troy i talk to the main tech at clover towing when i go there he says most of the drivers love the 7.3, but then we started talking about the 6.4 lots of power his buddy has one said it can roast any tire put on besides maybe a 4x4 tire but the bad thing is you cant do anything to them they wont run right with performance changes but like jake said the 6.0 is still new just going to take time till they find all the bugs and well the 6.4 thats going to take awhile haha

blacker_69
07-30-2007, 12:47 PM
the 6.4 uses 2 egr coolers, twin turbo, regen cycle wich then get maybe 5mpg, delays like a mofo when you into it but there all going to be like that. my neighbours buddy had 935,000 on his old 7.3 econoline purolator truck and only got rid of it because spare driver crashed it. chipped up 7.3 were bombproof, just get the updated air box so they dont get dusted and service em religiously and theyll last forever.

nonhighwayservice
08-02-2007, 10:07 PM
thanks for th input, it seem like the 6.0L is shitty, but not as bad as a duracrap, chevy could not and has not ever built a good diesel. I think I'm gonna look for a dodge with a cummins. You know what they say, Stop strokin start cummins.

longhorn
08-02-2007, 10:16 PM
My chipped 02 F350 7.3 is awsome for cruising or pulling .

PowerStroke
08-03-2007, 12:56 AM
chevy dont make the duramax.... heres a guide for yah

chevy diesel = Izuzu
dodge = Cummins
ford diesel = International

4doorShorty
08-03-2007, 10:47 AM
dodge makes it, but cummins breaks it.
If you want something done right, do it yourself...'STROKE IT!

nonhighwayservice
08-03-2007, 10:19 PM
just wait 'till the '09 fords come with the cummins

jakerngr
08-03-2007, 10:31 PM
not happenin

blacker_69
08-04-2007, 03:30 PM
09 poss 10' half tons will be equipped with land rover diesel engines, 09 ford sd will be using its own engine and ditching international.

jakerngr
08-04-2007, 05:59 PM
bullshit!! your telling me that ford came ot with the 6.4l and are only gonna use it for a year???? I will believe it when i see it. but for now i believe it is bullshit.