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05-30-2007, 11:06 PM
What does a decent running 428 cj go for im running a 390 and want to upgrade [36] and does eny one no of a good place to get older engines like these their must be a good ford recker yard around here? O ya i found one for 2500 running with auto trani from a 66 cougar To much?

05-31-2007, 12:27 AM
I know cobra jets are pretty damn expensive nowadays. 2500 for a complete engine doesn't sound too horrible.

05-31-2007, 11:20 PM
Ya im thinkin i might spring for it thanks for the imput.

06-01-2007, 12:01 PM
what about an older 460 or 429 from a lincoln or thunderbird they both made more than 360 hp stock and gobs of torque

m j
06-01-2007, 03:50 PM
there is no such thing as a 1966 cougar
the 428cj didnt come out until very late 68 or 69 IIRC

06-01-2007, 07:03 PM
66 was the first production release and it came with a small block 68 came with the optional 428 cj engine otherwise the 351
My old man had both of these a 66 with a 302 and a 68 428cj that burnt to the ground

Oh and in 67 it was car of the year

06-01-2007, 09:40 PM
68 - 71 460 or 429 would be the way to go if your gonna stick with an auto tranny. more power and tourque than the FEs and lighter and more stuff available. my 02 cents.

m j
06-01-2007, 10:25 PM
67 was the first year for Cougars
the 351 wasnt available until 69
IIRC 67 didnt even get a 302 that was still 289 era
the flagship motor in 67 would probably be the 390 GT or GTA same as the mustang
you could get a rare dual four barrel 289 in a road race package, maybe a Dan Gurney package for TransAm

the Cougar is my favorite car. always wanted one. a 69 Eliminator with a Cleveland 4 speed

06-01-2007, 11:22 PM
THe buddy i was lookin at for the 428 said it was a from a cougar im not shure on the partics like exactly the year its one of those ''got it from a buddy guys'' And he told me it was rebuild But guys im wondering isnt the 428 the block that can only be bored out 0.30 ?
O and the reason im building s purely centimental reasons only my papie used to race a 390 fe he loved the fes so like father and son im wanting to build one im memorie or in honor of him
sounds cheezey but what ever

06-02-2007, 08:48 AM
i had a 70 convertable lol

m j
06-02-2007, 09:20 AM
FE engines are the hardest to ID for me
nothing wrong with them IMO just old school
sonic checking is the only way to be certain how far you can bore a block

06-02-2007, 01:02 PM
The librarian in Port Moody had a 68 Cougar with 7 liter badges but that
was in 80s. Place call Flat land racing sells FE parts . 427 block and 428
crank to make 454 , lots of possibltys if you want to do something different.

m j
06-02-2007, 01:49 PM
found this
if someone is saying they have an FE from a 1966 cougar they are mistaken
just be certain what you are buying before you pay them
a real 427 or 428cj is worth huge $$, like really huge

The Mercury Cougar appeared in 1967 as a sport-luxury vehicle. The muscle car era was in full swing and Mercury used a longer version of the Ford Mustang chassis complete with two doors, leather bucket seats, and V8 engines. In its inaugural year, Motor Trend awarded it their prestigious award, the Car of the Year. The Mercury brought style, sophistication and speed. The engine options ranged from a 289 cubic inch V8 engine producing nearly 200 horsepower to a 390 cubic inch 8-cylinder power-plant capable of producing 335 horsepower and an amazing 427 foot-pounds of torque. The high performance 390 cubic-inch engine ran the quarter-mile in sixteen seconds and raced from zero to sixty in 8.1 seconds. A three-speed synchromesh gearbox was standard and a four-speed manual and three-speed Merc-O-Matic were also available, allowing for customization to suite all types of drivers and styles. The suspension was modified from the Mustang platform to include a longer rear leaf spring and an upgraded front suspension, the result was a softer, comfortable ride with a sports-racing heritage. An optional firmer suspension complete with stiffer springs, solid rear bushings, larger shocks, and wider anti-roll bars, were available for a price. If the driver preferred luxury over performance, the XR-7 package was available. This included competition instrumentation, walnut dash, leather-covered automatic transmission shifter, wood-trimmed steering wheel, and a combination of leather and vinyl seats. Just over 27,000 of the XR-7 option was ordered during its introductory year. The XR-7 option was offered for all years the pony-car Cougar was produced. More than 150,000 2-door Cougar hardtops were produced in 1967.

The success and popularity of the car continued in 1968 although sales did drop by around 40,000 vehicles. There were still well-over 110,000 examples produced in 1968. The base engine was the 289 V8 engine producing nearly 200 horsepower. The muscle-car era was heating up, and so were the available engines that Mercury was offering. A 427 and 428 cubic-inch engine became available with the 427 producing 390 horsepower and the 428 producing 335. With the 427, the Cougar could run from zero to sixty in 7.1 seconds and the quarter-mile in just over 15 seconds. The 428 was offered near the close of 1968 model year, a move that was intended to allow the buyer with customization room while keeping insurance and safety personnel content. When compared with the 427, the 428 did better on satisfying emission requirements and had around fifty-less horsepower. A performance package was offered, the GT-E, complete with the 427 cubic-inch V8 matted to a SelectShift Merc-O-Matic, power disc brakes, hood scoop which did nothing except add to the aggressive look of the vehicle, various performance and handling upgrades, and steel wheels.

The cougar changed in many ways in 1969. A convertible option was now offered, the 427 engine option was removed, and the wheelbase became wider and longer resulting in a heavier vehicle. Sales were still strong but they just barely cleared 100,000 units. Mercury introduced the Eliminator package available in blue, orange, and yellow exterior colors. Under the hood lurked a four-barrel Windsor 351 cubic-inch V8 capable of producing nearly 300 horsepower. The base engine was a 302 cubic-inch 8-cylinder producing 290 horsepower with the top of the line engine a 428 cubic-inch 8-cylinder producing just under 340 horsepower. Mercury offered products such as Weber carbs and deep-sump oil pans that amplified the performance to meet customer performance requirements. Larger brakes, sportier suspension, engine modifications, and performance products did make the car a stronger force on the drag strip but it was often shown-up by the smaller and lighter muscle cars of the day.

For 1970 the Cougar continued to grow in size. Although the size meant more interior room for the passengers, it also meant more weight. The Eliminator was still available, now with a 351 cubic-inch Cleveland 8-cylinder engine producing 300 horsepower. The 302 cubic-inch V8 rated at 290 horsepower was the base engine. A 429 cubic-inch 8-cylinder big-block with Ram-Air induction offered 375 horsepower and 440 foot-pounds of torque. With less than 4,300 convertible options sold during the 1970 model year, it guarantees their exclusivity in modern times. Although the size of the car and the available engines grew, sales did not. Just over 72,000 examples were produced in 1970.

The muscle-car era was beginning to decline due to stiff safety and emission regulations, gas shortages, and steeper insurance premiums. Mercury decided to continue the Cougar on the path of luxury with sport-tendencies, resulting in a larger wheelbase. The Eliminator package was no longer offered. The 351 or 429 cubic-inch engine were all that were offered. Horsepower ranged from 285 through 370 depending on the engine and configuration selected. 3,440 convertible were sold and nearly 63,000 combined total Mercury Cougars were produced in 1971.

06-02-2007, 02:56 PM
Thanks For the info guys what im going to do when i go to look at the engine is run the number on the crank and heads then do a compression test
Pretty shure itl be a 428 cause 427s ar very very rare and Big Big Bucks But the 428 were a cheaper alternative for ford but the still produced some good hps and torque
Thanks again Guys
Ill let you know the verdict[cheers]

06-02-2007, 08:05 PM
heres an ad for a 77 pickup with a 429 it says 1800 bucks:dontknow:


06-02-2007, 09:40 PM
Just my 2 cents.....the 428 is a nice engine, I know it was also offered in the '66 Galaxie 7 Liter edition.......a massive car that went like stink with that motor......scary fast......

06-03-2007, 12:19 AM
YA 428s are pretty slick theres a pretty cool article on a freshened 428 producing 500 plus ponies withalmost equal torque i think the article was on mustang and fords mag

06-04-2007, 05:00 PM
sean if u really want one,I do know of a buddies day who drag races and collects alot of old ford and chev stuff that im sure would have at least some of the parts,i know he has the hole motor in a torino,i think thats what it is,i just picked up off him a very rare 460/429 dual 4 bbl carb intake,so if u do want a 428cj or a 429,he could held u out but be prepeard too pay,cause this guys dosen't sell alot of his stuff,so let me know,i;ll give him a call see what he says then if he has anything i'll pm u his number and you can talk too him, Another option would be start looking in old big boats from the early 70's,cause cris craft and other companys put ford bb in there boats for a power plant,and they had a higher nickle content i belive,making them very strong motors