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Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 07:06 PM
Ok... So in the next 6 months I want to start building a truck....

I want a Ford Ranger.... Maybe Toy, but I am a Ford girl.

I know ill have to swap the axels if I go bigger then 33" tires. What are my options for axles? what do I want?? and what about gear ratio? (dont know much about that)

How big should I go with the tires? whats the best sized rims? for a trail, crawling truck, but I wont do to much highway driving.. but want it as a option.

I think I want a V6... engine modifications? whats a good idea? what do I need?

Any advice you guys got would be awsome....

Thanx guys and gals

F150HULK
03-14-2007, 07:14 PM
Unless you gots lots of money, I'd suggest buy one built or very close to what you want.

F150HULK
03-14-2007, 07:17 PM
Check this one out

http://www.funinbc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76994

If I had to do it over again i'll buy one built

Nile
03-14-2007, 07:18 PM
hmmmm[iagree]

StinkFinger
03-14-2007, 07:36 PM
wow thats a nice rig i was around when it wqas built no expens was spared

230
03-14-2007, 07:42 PM
trooper is for sale also.

Squishy
03-14-2007, 07:50 PM
build what chunks has, buy my axles, bolt in shit

Bocephus
03-14-2007, 08:28 PM
Check this one out

http://www.funinbc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=76994

If I had to do it over again i'll buy one built

yeah id go with that one too unless u got endless amounts of money u should buy something already built

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 08:48 PM
Im not going 0 - 100 nuts with building a rig, going to take it slower.... but what to get on the right track with building a rig.....

I want to build my own rig so I can learn, I have so much to learn and theres no better way then to just get your hands dirty.....

Thats a sweet ranger... I really like that (what I am looking to build, but maybe bigger?) I dont care about how much money I spend (with in reason), but if I build a truck I want to build it right! Thats why I want advice, I want to do it right....

epic3
03-14-2007, 08:53 PM
you dont need to go huge to enjoy trails or mud just build it well
that ranger (or you build one like it)is a very useable size and if built right it will be reliable and last you along time and most importantly will take you a lot of places

u-can-2
03-14-2007, 09:01 PM
#1 Straight front axle (if it doesn't have one already - Ranger's don't)

#2 Tires, gears, and lockers

#3 Winch, bumpers, cage

#4 Armor (yes, it usually comes last after the truck is all dented and scratched:D )



Take it slow and enjoy each build up process. The more you wheel it the more you will know what you want and how to build it [cheers]

BeerBaron666
03-14-2007, 09:01 PM
wow thats a nice rig i was around when it wqas built no expens was spared


Yup its a nice truck for sure

if ya have to cash up front buy a built one it will cost you ALOT more in the long run to build one and a lot longer to do it right[cheers]

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 09:20 PM
you dont need to go huge to enjoy trails or mud just build it well
that ranger (or you build one like it)is a very useable size and if built right it will be reliable and last you along time and most importantly will take you a lot of places

Yaa not really into mud... dont get me wrong I like getting my truck dirty, but I love crawling and trails... muds just for fun...

StinkFinger
03-14-2007, 09:38 PM
if thats the case think dual cases exo and 36's

its a good combo

BeerBaron666
03-14-2007, 09:39 PM
if thats the case think dual cases exo and 36's

its a good combo

how about dual cases exo and 42's:D

epic3
03-14-2007, 09:40 PM
and body amour

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 09:41 PM
if thats the case think dual cases exo and 36's

its a good combo
:confused: ok "girl terms" I am clued out

BeerBaron666
03-14-2007, 09:43 PM
dual case = 2 transfer cases

Exo = external rollcage

[cheers]

epic3
03-14-2007, 09:43 PM
two transfer cases for extra gear selection and exo is a roll cage but outside the truck to protect the body

StinkFinger
03-14-2007, 09:44 PM
36" tiers

two transfercases for double the low range gearing (gives you more control

exo cage a cage on the out side so your boady dosent get all fucked up

solid axle front and rear danna 44 or tot 8" min

StinkFinger
03-14-2007, 09:45 PM
holy shit just jump right in front of me there

epic3
03-14-2007, 09:46 PM
well he did it first

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 09:49 PM
[cheers] ok thought that was one term :dontknow: i know what a exo is... you guys got ideas of what I should be looking for?????

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m167/cowgirlcountry/Rangerxo.jpg

Like this:dontknow:

epic3
03-14-2007, 09:51 PM
zee artizt

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 09:55 PM
whats better manual or air lockers????????????????

sj-x 500
03-14-2007, 10:03 PM
you could buy my f-150 :D

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 10:07 PM
thanx... but want to build it.. its not a money thing... its a experience and learning thing... if I ever want to learn got to get down and dirty

sj-x 500
03-14-2007, 10:07 PM
whats better manual or air lockers????????????????

there are 2 kinds of lockers, auto and manual.

automatic is a detroit, they're alright, some love em some hate em. and welded. or lsd's

manuals are cable, electric and air activated. they're 100% open till you flip a switch, then BAM, you're locked as tight as a nun's hoop.

sj-x 500
03-14-2007, 10:09 PM
thanx... but want to build it.. its not a money thing... its a experience and learning thing... if I ever want to learn got to get down and dirty

yea i'm with ya on that one, not saying that the f-150 is done, it's just sittin on 35's with a lift :D

StinkFinger
03-14-2007, 11:42 PM
what about the detroit electrac its a limited slip when unlocked and a spool when locked

Redneck Cowgirl
03-14-2007, 11:55 PM
what about the detroit electrac its a limited slip when unlocked and a spool when locked

ok "girly terms" I understand kind of.. but whys that good? electrac(more to go wrong?) and how does spool work?

MUD CHILD
03-15-2007, 12:32 AM
thanx... but want to build it.. its not a money thing... its a experience and learning thing... if I ever want to learn got to get down and dirtyThat line alone will bring at least 200 more posts[15] [15] [15]

Redneck Cowgirl
03-15-2007, 12:35 AM
:p cant say nothing eh:dontknow: all my posts end up like thatdrama

MUD CHILD
03-15-2007, 12:38 AM
:p cant say nothing eh:dontknow: all my posts end up like thatdrama
[15] [15] [15] Juuust messin with ya[cheers]

Redneck Cowgirl
03-15-2007, 12:40 AM
[cheers] got any advice for me????? i want to get a good goal plan going :D

MUD CHILD
03-15-2007, 12:55 AM
Well figure out exactly what you want. If it is your daily you will not want to build anything to crazy, do all mods one at a time so it does not become a huge progect and most important have fun while you are doing it

Murd0c
03-15-2007, 03:18 PM
you basicly have to pic what truck you wan and go from there best way to do it. So many different options with different vehicels really.

But as they said Solid front axle a lift tires rear locker. you also should get a rock slider (protects the rocker below the door) since I know u fucked up the one on your ranger

[cheers]

F150HULK
03-15-2007, 06:26 PM
thanx... but want to build it.. its not a money thing... its a experience and learning thing... if I ever want to learn got to get down and dirty


Don't worry if you drive it like I do, You'll learn pleanty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [36] [36] [36] [36] [36]

Redneck Cowgirl
03-15-2007, 07:37 PM
[cheers] its not going to be my daily driver, just wheeling... but I dont want to have to trailer my truck to wheeling spots.... so it will do highway driving....


AXLES???? what are my options? whats best for a ranger on say... 38"

Kinslayer
04-09-2007, 03:57 PM
Spools are nice little units. They lock your diff up real tight and will never break - only problem, they never unlock either. It's basically the 'spend money' equivilant to welding your diffs.

I don't think you will need 38s on a ranger, on midsize trucks like that something lke 33-35 is going to get you anywhere you want to go, and wont require so much lift and replacement parts through it's useful life. Most Toyota pickups you see will be running that size of tire for instance.

See the Toy in the background:
http://www.shadowacre.com/stuff/Blazer/toshop.jpg
Those are 34 inch LTBs - very good size for that truck, he can fit 36s if he wanted to though.

Lockers are nice, but there is a HUGE price difference between a selectable locker and an automatic locker. Selectable lockers (ARB, etc) are ..really expensive, but you can press a button to be open or locked. Auto lockers (detroit, powertraxx, lockrite) are cheaper (like..200-800 bucks depending on axle), and they automatically lock when driving straight and unlock when turning. They basically 'reverse' the action of the diff, instead of giving power to the wheel with LESS traction, they give power to the wheel with MORE traction (IE, the most resistance VS least resistance).

Also, the more lift you get the more SHIT you have to deal with. 4 inches of lift is a good lift that will fit a LOT of tires but doesn't require much if any steering modification. You will notice this with the price of the lift kits - a 4 inch for a heep is 1000, a 6 inch is 3000. Also, a 2 inch is like 200.

All in all, I think you would get the most enjoyment from buying a truck that already has a solid front axle, getting a good 4 inch lift kit, install it, throw on some 34s..then wheel. If/When you find yourself wanting a locker, go do some research on what you want, and go get one or two. Rocksliders are pretty easy to fab up and don't require expensive tools like a full exo (pipe bender) and they let you USE your rockers for your wheeling benefit! Rotate around rocks, not worry about dropping down onto your body, slide across bolders, etc etc.

crazylike
04-13-2007, 12:18 PM
get cross over steering

Arnee
04-14-2007, 01:24 PM
kinslayer.
how does he find the 34 inch tires, much difference from 33 - power loss for a toy haha or did he re gear it

m j
04-14-2007, 01:48 PM
pick your tire size, the difs will be determined by that
35s are the best range to be in as there are a ton of choices, with a detroit locker and alloy shafts in a d44 you should be OK

do you like an auto or manual transmission?
cheapest way to go would be old C4 C6 auto or an np435 manual

a doubler is $$ but will allow you to run highway gears in the dif and still be geared super low offroad. bling item

I would run a stock mustang 5.0 V8 in a ranger rather then a stepchild V6

a hardcore ranger would be fun to build

Redneck Cowgirl
04-14-2007, 07:00 PM
[cheers] thanx all, you have giving me lots of ideas [36]

HillBillyLincoln
04-14-2007, 11:12 PM
If you are a fan of fords, you might wanna think about old school Bronco's.
You can buy fiberglass tubs now, very easy to work on etc. Lots of parts around (jeff's Bronco grave yard). Just a thought

Redneck Cowgirl
04-14-2007, 11:50 PM
[cheers] thanx but I am a pick up girl[36]

Kinslayer
04-15-2007, 12:52 AM
kinslayer.
how does he find the 34 inch tires, much difference from 33 - power loss for a toy haha or did he re gear it

Not sure. He had 36s on there before, and I think his AT set are 33s. He has a pontiac V6 in there so power isn't really too much of an issue.