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Ditchpig
01-26-2007, 08:36 PM
Alright, here is a good one for people to deliberate. Eventually I'm going to swap out my transmission on my truck. I've got an L52 5 speed that is actually an L52 4 speed, seeing as 5th doesn't work for one reason or another. Should I replace it with another 5 speed or replace it with a 4 speed unit? What are the benefeits of your suggestion? Are there big negatives associated with either unit? I'm going to be keeping the truck a Toyota as far as engine and drivetrain is concerned, so lemme know what you think!

deuce
01-26-2007, 09:08 PM
a four will have a wider gear ratio, wich means when crawlin it will seem like you have diminished power.
a five is my preferance, not only do you have the ever popular overdrive
but better options for 4x4ing.
But thats just my oppinion:dontknow:

Amiel Voth
01-26-2007, 10:36 PM
They have the same gear ratios. The only difference between a 4 and a 5 speed is the 5th gear.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/l_series.htm

Oh ya, the L52 is the strongest from the L-series.

GOT MUD
01-26-2007, 11:02 PM
to give ya an honest opinion of the fifth gear............ i never hit it. not on the highway. of course i ges that would be the only place it would be used. if ya had stock tires!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! if ya got anything more without gears forget the fifth it's useless. but thats just my 2 cents

deuce
01-26-2007, 11:12 PM
They have the same gear ratios. The only difference between a 4 and a 5 speed is the 5th gear.
http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transmission/l_series.htm

Oh ya, the L52 is the strongest from the L-series.

My bad i was missinformed.Good to know
i do use my 5th on the highway and i have 35 tsl and 488 gears with a shitty 4banger:dontknow:

GOT MUD
01-26-2007, 11:38 PM
see so the ratio really does matter. last time i had mine on the highway goin into the wind i could'nt get out of 4th to save my life. and i was ridin 35's with a done out 22r. but stock welded 410's

deuce
01-26-2007, 11:42 PM
Got to have the gears, it make all the difference.
i ran my 95 toy with 35's and stock 4.10's
that clutch didnt last very long and couldnt get past 90 on the highway

TWOZEROFOUR
01-27-2007, 01:27 AM
I have had two with the 4spd. 33's w4:10 . drivin a few buddies trucks with the 5sp. I like the 5th on the highway. but i have seen just as many 4sp'd blown apart as 5sp'd. no need to move the cross member if you keep the tranny u all ready have. I may be wrong, but i thought the 5sp was longer. just my 2Cents.

GOT MUD
01-27-2007, 11:43 AM
i'm pretty sure that the mounts are the same as long as you get on from an 83 or under but i could be wrong

deuce
01-27-2007, 12:46 PM
i checked it out on marlin crawlers site
and they said ou can get kits to add a gear to the exsiting case

Toy_Runner
01-27-2007, 12:57 PM
i used 5th gear on highway with 33's and 4.10's and could do 120

Ditchpig
01-27-2007, 02:32 PM
Yeah, you see from what I understand the 4 speed is basically the same as the 5 but without the "extra" 5th gear. That's basically why I was wondering which one of the 2 would be better for 4X4ing. Every 4 and 5 speed truck had the same gearing but I'd heard that the L52 had a larger input bearing so it was a little stronger. I'm going to deal with not having a 5th gear for now, mostly because other than that small problem the transmission works fine. Thanks for the opinoins everyone

Cookie
01-27-2007, 04:18 PM
usually just kept all my toys in 4th even on the hwy. they were all 22rs had one pick up with the 4 speed one with the 5 speed and a 4runner with 5 speed.unless the wind was at my back 4 was it.

StillRYE
01-27-2007, 06:20 PM
are you sure its not a 4 speed? the L45 and the L52 are identical trannies besides the 5th gear the newer w series trannies are longer and aluminum

mountain man
01-27-2007, 06:54 PM
Definately go with the 5-speed, that leaves you way better options to run deeper gears.