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Gaybait
11-22-2006, 08:45 AM
Was looking at a set of toy diffs.. was wondering how long and the extent of work it is to get these under the sidekick and have it working and rolling??

i need what.. leafs, brackets, ssteering components, Lengthened driveshaft? i dunno.. an dhow long would it take.. a weekend?

StinkFinger
11-22-2006, 09:13 AM
big b has some toy difs for sale

and if you have never done somthing like this and you think you can pull it of in a week end your dreaming


youl need springs and hangers wether it be leafs or coils
steering
gearing
breaks
drive shafts
what are you doing in the rear?

sj-x 500
11-22-2006, 11:19 AM
if you want leafs up front you're gonna have to extend the frame too.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 12:13 PM
god, fucker that shit then haha

StinkFinger
11-22-2006, 12:55 PM
its a lot of work but if done right will make one hell of a good little wheeler

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 04:12 PM
cause im debating if ontop of the 225 for the 3" body if i should just get2 " coil spacers for another 225 for the mean time so i can fit some 31's so i can actually decently wheel.. or just get the bod lift and TRY and sas it. lol

crimsen
11-22-2006, 05:40 PM
225 for a bodylift ? BWAHAHAHAhA.

sorry.

why not look for a locker of some sort before going big sized tires.

REZ
11-22-2006, 05:55 PM
buddy,before I was also wonder to either go solid axle or just have a simple independent lift.
I end it up doing 3" body and 3" sus.
with this set up and locker and 31" or bigger tire you can almost go anywhere unless you wane do some serious wheeling....

ray
11-22-2006, 06:08 PM
well u could extend frame or weld on your front bumper if you make abush bar instead make it stick out lil and mount spring perches or brackets there

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 07:15 PM
225 includes the shipping and all extentions for the steering / 4x4 shifter as well as the bumper brackets and all that crud

230
11-22-2006, 07:20 PM
Its less than $500 just do it and if you want to go with a solid axel afterwards so be it.but wheel it first before you decide what you want to do.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 07:25 PM
should i just go with the 3 inch body and tires for now.. cuz if i do the 2 inch coil spacers and end up doing the 3 inch Suspension lift i kinda just wasted money no? and with the 2inch coil il prob pop cv's no?

crimsen
11-22-2006, 07:28 PM
what is your plan for this vehicle? daily driver and mild wheeling? street legal and advanced wheelin? trailer and extreme wheelin?

what do you plan to do with the truck will determine how it will be built.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 07:35 PM
daily driver / mild wheeling.. im not gonna be doing stuff like Can opener or anything mad like that.. im thinkin shit like Eagle to the top and down with no problems.. davis, sunrise that kinda stuff.. nothign uber hardcore

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 07:36 PM
for now i mean thats all i want.. maybe when im working full time i can afford a crazy 4x4 then a seperate DD

youngun
11-22-2006, 07:50 PM
aslong as you don't go ant bigger then 33's the front cv's will hold up no problem

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 08:20 PM
does anyone else make a 3 inch suspension besides calmini.. they fookin suck

youngun
11-22-2006, 08:22 PM
www.boondoxmotorsports.com (http://www.boondoxmotorsports.com) they make one that it cheaper. And they have REALLY good service.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 08:37 PM
there outta stock of suspension lifts :(

exo_toy
11-22-2006, 08:43 PM
thats the category I was aiming for; daily driver and very mild wheeling.....

crimsen
11-22-2006, 08:44 PM
for a daily driver and mild wheeler, get a soft locker of some sort, trim the fenders a little and run max 31's. it will do you well.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 08:53 PM
with a body lift?

youngun
11-22-2006, 09:59 PM
all that matter is you get a locker. That would be the first thing to get, before tires, lift, gearing, etc. Lockers are AMAZING

REZ
11-22-2006, 10:15 PM
with any tire bigger than 31x10.5 will be lots of stress on drive axle and....
with 2" coil spacer you should drop your front diff as well and you need strut spacer too, otherwise your strut will hold your lower control arms up

crimsen
11-22-2006, 10:19 PM
i am not sure the stock size of tire on the kick, but basically put the body lift in (and why not go 3" instead of the 2"??) and then just see roughly what kinda tire size you can handle. it may only be a 29 or 30" tire. you may very well get a 31, i have no idea.

basically once you get the body lift in, flex it out, see what kinda clearance you get, and go from there. trim the fenders as needed for the last little bit of clearance. reason i said max of 31 is after that i am not sure how well the stock suspension will hold up.

then once you get the bodylift and know of the tire size you want, get a rear locker to accomodate this. get something like a lockright or ez locker or something. i am not real familiar with these kind of locker, im usually either welded or detroit, as i need the strength. you should be able to get a locker for a couple hundred dollars. then get your tires.

finally decide how you like the performance of the truck with the bigger tires, and go for new gears if you are really unhappy.





summary: since you already have a bodylift ordered, put that in, then get a rear locker, then your tires, and finally gears.


if you still have not got the BL comming, try and get a locker first. then do a lift, then tires, then gears if needed.

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 11:00 PM
but whats the use of a locker to push me places when i cant get over things?? like i hit everything.. haah

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 11:02 PM
and would just welding the rear diff be easier than a locker or bad?

Troy
11-22-2006, 11:07 PM
welding the rear diff permanently locks your rear end up... a locker allows one wheel to spin faster then the other when going around corners on the road, and when your givin er in the mud and you get one tire spinnin the locker takes over and spins both wheels

Troy
11-22-2006, 11:08 PM
kind of like a posi-trac but 10 times better, well worth it when your in the middle of nowhere and stuck

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 11:10 PM
hmm, well still i dont see the point of a locker ATM when i can really get no where without a decent bod lift to pick myself up..

Troy
11-22-2006, 11:15 PM
well... doesnt really matter your going to need one if your gonna lift it and wheel it unless you like getting stuck...and body lifts are gay in my opinion because they look dumb and its not a real lift, suspension is what you need to lift

Gaybait
11-22-2006, 11:45 PM
not neccasairly.. with a body lift it makes clearence for bigger tires which lifts up ur pumpkins whcih is what u really hafta lift, as well as ur body away from smashin it on stuff. I agree with u that suspension is more important because it actually lets u articulate more but, i think that body lifts are just as important so i can get bigger tires which will allow me amble clearence

Troy
11-23-2006, 12:02 AM
ya i guess if your not going all out on the thing then its not a big deal, just my preference but as long as you do a good solid job of the body lift[cheers]

Gaybait
11-23-2006, 10:05 AM
[cheers] now i just hafta git'r'done.. anyone know where i can pickup a locker for a decent price?

StinkFinger
11-23-2006, 10:41 AM
boady lift will only lift the boady not the suspension components or frame
a locker will get you places you shouldent be able to go id get some 32 and cut till they fit maby some 4 door coils or coil spacers

Blazer
11-23-2006, 12:39 PM
just my 2 cents, I would go with a locker wielding is to hard on tires. I run 2in body and a 2.5 block lift and strut spacers with 31-10.50's no trimming and I go just about any ware I point it. I haven't dropped the front diff yet and have only blown one CV boot.

HEAVY METAL
11-23-2006, 02:53 PM
if you weld it i GAURENTEE you will crash.......

In The Zone
11-23-2006, 03:00 PM
I ran a welded diff in two trucks fullsize and a BII no problems other than going through tires like effin beer....

HEAVY METAL
11-23-2006, 03:04 PM
I ran a welded diff in two trucks fullsize and a BII no problems other than going through tires like effin beer....


thats YOU dan.... older more experienced driver.....( and i've seen you crash lots....thats a whol dif story)...its gonna be rainin he gonna forget bout his rearend one day give a lil gas roun d a corner......crash.....my truck is a freakin handful in the rain.... couldnt imagin it bein one of my first vehicles too daily drive......

In The Zone
11-23-2006, 03:23 PM
Good point.....



either way i would not recommend welding it...unless all his lunch money is going in to tires....




You also pushing 300+ horse...... Dean


the squirrels in that would have a hard time spinnin the tires even on wet pavment....LOL












thats as much fun as air time....

Gaybait
11-23-2006, 03:39 PM
ya i agree with all of you.. locker does seem like a better way to go.. im still debating what im all suppose ot be doing at the saem time... NO Its not my lunch money but its pretty close.. im still in highschool but im also working 5 days a week so im trying to get some toys. Thanks for the input guys

REZ
11-23-2006, 03:51 PM
I dont know why you wane do body lift first !!!
first you have to do sus lift so you get more clearence and better flex,
then if you go with the tires that are too big for the set up and hit your fenders then you can do some body lift (which is only for your tires clearence and thats it)


for locker do not weld the back cuz you will break it soon, get a locker
for front you can weld it, cuz when you are driving in city your manual hub is disengage. http://www.funinbc.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72477;) so no problem ...

Gaybait
11-23-2006, 04:11 PM
haha,, grrr but all the suspension lifts that are available are outta stock and theres no fookin way im waiting 6+ months for calmnini to come through with shat!

StinkFinger
11-23-2006, 04:13 PM
so get some toy difs and sas it

youngun
11-23-2006, 04:47 PM
Ok, If you put on a 3" bodylift cut the fenders and ran some 31's it would be alreight.

if you left it at the stock height and got a locker it would go just as far as with lift and 31's.

I have a 3" bodylift (homemade)
3" suspesion lift (homemade)
4" GasTank lift (homemade)
And a detroit ez locker.

And getting some 31" SuperSwampers in about a month

I wish i woulda put the locker in before i even started lifting it, it is undiscribable how amazing they are off road..... and in snow :D

Gaybait
11-23-2006, 06:03 PM
where'd u get ur detriot locker..?? can i get em through lordco??

youngun
11-23-2006, 06:38 PM
well, it is a detroit ez locker, im sure you can get them threw lordco.

REZ
11-23-2006, 06:55 PM
Ok, If you put on a 3" bodylift cut the fenders and ran some 31's it would be alreight.

if you left it at the stock height and got a locker it would go just as far as with lift and 31's.

I have a 3" bodylift (homemade)
3" suspesion lift (homemade)
4" GasTank lift (homemade)
And a detroit ez locker.

And getting some 31" SuperSwampers in about a month

I wish i woulda put the locker in before i even started lifting it, it is undiscribable how amazing they are off road..... and in snow :D
I tought you wane get 32" Mtr :confused:
how much did you pay for the locker??
I am looking for a good deal

youngun
11-23-2006, 07:55 PM
well, i got a quote for 1200 for x terrains so i never even bothered with pricing mtrs. BFG muds, costco 820 with tax

So, why get bfgs or mtrs or x terrains when i can get some superswampers.

I got the detroit used for 200.

REZ
11-23-2006, 11:33 PM
I would have get swampers if I could afford them.

I should find a good deal like that....