View Full Version : 1983 Rebuild

Amiel Voth
10-15-2006, 03:53 PM
I've been slowly putting this thing back together over the past year. I finally got to drive it again yesterday[36] .

Anyways, I started with this:

Rebuilt the front end and upgraded to V6 calipers that I scored for 50 bucks and vented rotors:

Then I did this[j] :

Bent the frame and tweaked the cab. To drive strait I had the wheel turned 90*. But I wasn't going to give up on it.

Bought an 82 parts truck from Slacker for 350 bucks, sold what I didn't need and broke even. Kept the front end and frame and some other stuff. The frame was a bit bent, but mint rust wise.

I painted the frame and put the driveline from my 83 on it:

Bought a cab for $250 and had to redo the floor. I decided to tub the firewall while I was at it. I then bedlined it with hippo liner. Kit did the floor and back of the cab and I still have some left:

I painted it for under 20 bucks. Just for now, untill I can afford new fenders and paint:

All in all, it's cost me about 500 bucks plus tools I woulda bought anyways.

That was phase One. Phase Two will include the modifications I wanted to do before the accident.

I'm sorta looking for a passenger side headlight bucket and some fenders.

Thanks for reading.[41]

10-15-2006, 03:58 PM
Nice job man, lotta work...got any pictures of "I decided to tub the firewall while I was at it." Would like to see how you did it please. [cheers]

10-15-2006, 04:03 PM
sweet Amiel ... great work .

Amiel Voth
10-15-2006, 04:06 PM
I thought I did have a pic, but I don't. I don't have my own camera, I gotta borrow my dads work camera whenever I want to take some.

But, I did it just like this:

10-15-2006, 04:17 PM
Thanks Amiel, that's perfect. [cheers]

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 04:53 PM
How much lift do you need to fit 35s?:confused:


10-21-2006, 04:58 PM
thats sweet I never thought about doin that I think I will

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 05:07 PM
To be fair, I did tub the firewall about 3 inches, and I still have to trim the fender a bit. But it looks like they'll clear perfect. That, and I only have about 2 inches uptravel on these worn out springs.[15]

The way I see it, if I can get them to not rub at stock height, I should have no trouble with rubbing when I lift it.

10-21-2006, 05:55 PM
what happened to that silver one youve been driving around town? i see you crossing the bridge almost every day...

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 06:03 PM
The silver one is parked. It donated it's feet this weekend. [15]

I'm going to be selling it pretty soon, gotta pay for school.:(

10-21-2006, 06:05 PM
ah yea, school is overrated, whatcha taking?

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 06:50 PM
Mechanical engineering. Not the easiest of all courses, thats for sure.

How bout you, you keeping busy?

10-21-2006, 06:54 PM
MEchanical engineering sucks balls, i got out after one semester switched to civil, twice as many jobs, better jobs.

10-21-2006, 07:02 PM
doing my carpentry apprenticeship, i hear the mech eng. course is hard from steve (exo_toy)

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 07:19 PM
Meg eng doesn't seem to be that bad. At least, if it wern't for this materials course we have to take.

10-21-2006, 07:23 PM
Nice build. What are your plans for it besides lift.

10-21-2006, 07:30 PM
at least you dont have yves as a teacher like i did
the materials labs arent bad though. did my pcom manual project on the charpy test.

Amiel Voth
10-21-2006, 08:00 PM
Plans include but are not limited to:
3-4" lift composed of chevies and rears up front
Proper Toyota Yellow paint job
Crossover Steering
Some form of super birfs (smufs, longs ect)
Rear end out of a IFS truck
Booster and master out of a T100 (1 1/16" bore)
Rework the rear bumper to get a better departure angle.

Someday I want to swap a bigger motor in there. Perhaps a 7mge, I hear they bolt in.

Ya, those labs aren't to bad. That 4140 makes one hell of a bang when it breaks doesn't it?

10-22-2006, 02:13 AM
are yuo in first semester?

Amiel Voth
10-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Yep, first simester still. Just finished the first load of midterms.

I took the truck for a spin today, looks like I'll need some new rims with less backspacing. Rubs the draglink/pitman arm on full right. Still have to trim those fenders too....

I'm also having a hell of a time finding front shocks. Nobody in this town seems to have em. Had to order some, be here this Tuesday.[27]

G-rizzle Swank
10-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Someday I want to swap a bigger motor in there. Perhaps a 7mge, I hear they bolt in.

yea you heard wrong, the only thing that bolts on is the tranny i think, and theres a shiiiiit load of wiring, not my cup of tea

Amiel Voth
10-22-2006, 08:44 PM
They don't bolt in directly, you need the mounts off a 5mge.

Amiel Voth
10-25-2006, 04:18 PM
Does anyone know where I can get some new rims? I need some with less backspacing to push the tire away from the frame. When I turn right, it rubs the steering box. I'd really like to be able to park without having to make a 7 point turn[16] .

Somthing as close to 2.5" back spacing as possible.

Amiel Voth
10-29-2006, 02:52 PM
I'm slowly getting the interior done. I have most of the dash in. I've repainted most of the parts before putting them in. It's a bit dusty cause the vents are all full of dust and pine needles. Ignore the door panels, they're the only ones I have at the moment.

I used a special vinyl and plastic paint. Dash pad turned out VERY nice, looks almost brand new. Just a little dusty...


Did first gens ever come with sliding rear windows from the factory? I just installed one (that I bought for 10 bucks) and it was a pain in the ass to get in, looks aftermarket. The cab I bought also had a sliding window, but was in sorry shape so I replaced it.

It says 'Prestige' on the latch.

G-rizzle Swank
10-29-2006, 07:29 PM
They don't bolt in directly, you need the mounts off a 5mge.

hmm ok well you could get the motor in there but then theres about 40 +hrs of wiring alone.

Amiel Voth
10-29-2006, 08:14 PM
It cant be too bad, there's a few write ups on the net about these swaps. Most of them show or list the wires you need or dont need.
Found this a while back when I was looking into it. http://www.supracharged.com/tech/wiring/index.shtml

I have heard good things about the Tacoma 2.7L. Seems to be an easier swap, you have to change one motor mount to get it to sit proper, but its much smaller and you don't need to cut the radiator support and stuff. You can still run a clutch fan. Harder to find tho.

For now, I'll probly throw a header on the 22r and a nice exaust. Maybe even throw a 20r head on and make a hybrid.

11-08-2006, 08:46 PM
amiel... you really gotta lift that thing, saw it the other day and your tires are almost rubbing driving straight.... looks laaaame, but good job on gettin it on the road!

Amiel Voth
11-08-2006, 09:07 PM
Haha, I know. They don't rub much at all amazingly. They only catch the fenders on bumps with the wheels cranked, I'll take care of that this weekend with the ol sawzall.

Thanks to the crappy offset on the rims, it it rubs on my steering box. Other than that its good.

But I gotta lift it. I've saving to do it all at once, crossover, better shock hoops, the works. I was thinking of throwing some longer shackles on it for now.

Anyone know where I can get some for cheap?

G-rizzle Swank
11-08-2006, 09:15 PM
good luck lifting that thing and being able to rund a front driveshaft without problems, i couldnt do it, finally had to go duals to run a front d-shaft, i went from binding to compressing to blowing up u-joints to using the full 5" of slip and popping off and binding at the same time, and thats with the trail gear 4" springs that move the axle forward 2"
good luck

Amiel Voth
11-08-2006, 09:23 PM
What did your pinion angle look like?

I'm probobly going to go 3-4" lift on it. Move the axle forwards a bit 1.5" or somthing, cant remember exactly.

Your running crossover steering right? How'd you mount the IFS box?

Amiel Voth
11-15-2006, 06:26 PM
So I went 4x4ing with it on Monday.

Nothing broke, but I found out that my 'good' driveshaft is as crappy as the rest I have.[16]

Did manage to get a tree wedged between the flatdeck and gas tank. That was a strange one.

I only have pics of it in the garage, can't take the camera 4wheelin.

11-19-2006, 10:09 AM
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p192/oilinmyveins/Picture007.jpg i got 2 good 81 fenders for $60 would trade them for 84+ fenders in good shape but im in abbotsford rob_good@hotmail.com

Amiel Voth
11-25-2006, 08:53 PM
I got tired of looking at the big hole in my dash and my zapstrapped stereo. So, I made one on these:
It isn't quite done yet. I have a few more holes to make, there's a peice of plastic trim missing aswell. I havn't decided on what to cover it with. Was thinking of vinyl.

It seems too empty, any ideas?

11-25-2006, 10:55 PM
maybe put a few guages in the empty spots like tachometer or oil pressure or something[cheers]

11-25-2006, 10:56 PM
oh nvm i just saw u got them below that in that console[sorrysign]

Amiel Voth
11-25-2006, 11:03 PM
No biggy, I thought about moving them there too. But then I get an open space further down.

I was thinking of getting a compact CB and installing it next to the climate control. Does anyone use CBs anymore?

11-25-2006, 11:16 PM
ya people still use cb's lol...there good too when you go on logging roads you can listen and see if their any trucks coming down or other people wheelin in the area stuff like that and good for emergencies[cheers]

G-rizzle Swank
11-26-2006, 05:55 PM
ya people still use cb's lol...there good too when you go on logging roads you can listen and see if their any trucks coming down or other people wheelin in the area stuff like that and good for emergencies[cheers]

logging trucks use those high frequency 2 way radios im pretty sure
they dont use cb's i dont think

12-23-2006, 11:01 PM
Put the old school toyota symbol on there and vinyl it that would look pretty kool

12-26-2006, 12:03 AM
in got a head lite buket + alot of other parts 4 a 83 if needed call me at 604 855-2567

Amiel Voth
04-17-2007, 06:55 PM
Just thought I'd bring this thread back from the dead instead of making a new one.

Over easter long weekend I lifted the truck. I was going to do my own thing, rears up front, chevies and so on. But after pricing it all out, it was cheaper to just buy a kit. I bought the trailgear front and rear kits. Both 5". Looks more like 8" of lift.:confused0006:

Here is the kind of clearance I'm getting now.

I also regeared it to 5.29s and threw a lockright in the back.

04-17-2007, 07:17 PM
ive got some toy parts from 1980/83 let me know what ya need i most likley have them[36] [cheers]

05-26-2007, 10:01 PM
so Amiel told me about this site and his post but after seein his poor post on his truck i think a share more with ya all (stirs the pot):D

This is the first test flex at our secret test mound.

We had a problem with the shackles hitting the frame and body mounts cause his frame stoping it from completely flating the spring, it turns his frame is a little bent [16] so it seemed banana shackles were needed.:party0010:

With the trail gear kit you move the front hanger forward about 3/4 to 1inch but with Amiel frame its was about an inch back to start with.:confused0006:
So after a nice painting of yellow(ya ya banana shackles yellow) we threw them on went to test it out.


So as you can see its working far better now just need some bumpstops and its done.


All it needs now is rims and dual cases so theres a front shaft[16] and build a good bumper cause the old booty fab not going to cut it:D


Also a new grill to replace the cut up old one and she a mean bugger.[cheers]

05-26-2007, 10:47 PM
ive got three spare grills,if your in the area come grab one[cheers]

05-27-2007, 08:28 AM
thats coming along nicely

05-27-2007, 11:46 AM
Thanks toyon35s but we got one the other day. just need Slacker to ship them pertty high clearance 1st gen fenders. [cheers]

05-27-2007, 12:55 PM
Looking good man, does that thing have lockers yet.

05-27-2007, 05:20 PM
Thanks toyon35s but we got one the other day. just need Slacker to ship them pertty high clearance 1st gen fenders. [cheers]

dang dude ... there commin' :)

Amiel Voth
05-27-2007, 10:52 PM
so Amiel told me about this site and his post but after seein his poor post on his truck i think a share more with ya all (stirs the pot):D

Gimme the spoon!

Anyways, I can't be happier with how it all works off road. The suspensions cycles perfectly with the banana shackles, nothing hits anymore. The bilstein shocks are awesome, I'll never buy cheap shocks again.:D

The rear locker is great, this thing went everywhere in 2wd. I still need to figure out how to get a front driveshaft into this thing, looks like a pain. I picked up a second transfer case last weekend so dual cases may be happening in the near future.

Thing thing gets off the line really quick with the locker and 5.29s. Really suprising considering how tired the motor is.:confused0006:

It's got a Lockright in the back, front is open. Literally, there is nothing in the front housing right now. Not even hub dials.[15]

How are the molds coming along? I guess now that you have those Trekkers there you can fit the prototypes easier? I cant wait for my set.

05-27-2007, 11:00 PM
looking good dude

been a long time since I seen a first gen truck being built up

05-27-2007, 11:53 PM
looks good dude, im tit's deep in mine right now. i will throw up some pic's

05-28-2007, 04:21 PM
How are the molds coming along? I guess now that you have those Trekkers there you can fit the prototypes easier? I cant wait for my set.

unfortunatly the front end of the trekker is twisted , and wont give a good accurate mounting surface ..
I'm looking for another mounting surface .

05-28-2007, 08:58 PM
damn slacker i just junked a goodish cab too, it was just missin its roof.....i cant wait for my fenders either haha BLING......if i pick up another parts truck ill see how the cab is

05-29-2007, 12:16 PM
ratz ...

05-29-2007, 08:47 PM
where did you get your 5.29's. did you put them in and set em up your self?

Amiel Voth
05-29-2007, 09:39 PM
I got them from Taran at Big Country Customs. He has a gear installer there that set them up for me.

They are a Yukon gearset if you are wondering.

I got them on sale.
Gear Set $179
Install Kit $162
Install $160

So, $501 per 3rd.

I am happy with them, they work like they should.

I had to do a little bit of grinding on the housing, I guess the 5.29s have a bigger ring gear than the 4.10s.

05-29-2007, 10:38 PM
did you pull the 3rds and send em out, also did you stick with stock birf's and axels?

Amiel Voth
05-30-2007, 01:32 AM
He had some spare 3rds sitting around the shop. He got the gears installed in them and I brought my old 3rds along when I went to pick them up. I just exchanged my old 3rds with the new ones. Sorta like cores.

I bought Longfields for the front, I still have to get them installed. I decided I only wanted to pull axle shafts and joints once, so Longs were the answer. They are spendy, but I'll never break them.

05-31-2007, 12:33 AM
thanks for the info, wich cross over steer did ya use. looks like it's gonna be a worthy rig.. u ever wheel up bartley/hayman?

Amiel Voth
05-31-2007, 12:04 PM
thanks for the info, wich cross over steer did ya use. looks like it's gonna be a worthy rig.. u ever wheel up bartley/hayman?

Its trail gear crossover, came with the front kit.

Nope, I've never wheeled up there. Might check it out pretty soon. Thats up Bartley road right? Lemme know next time you head up. Might want to tag along.[cheers]

Big Mitch
06-04-2007, 09:50 PM
looks cool
looks like a good time

Amiel Voth
06-07-2007, 09:40 PM
We took the truck up to Postil on May long. I finally got around to scanning the pics in. The quality sucks, but what can you expect from a camera that came with a fish scale?:dontknow: No 4wd in these pics. Rear locker helps a lot.
The camera didn't have a flash so this one is a bit dark. I had a cooler pic, but it was way to dark and didn't turn out.
On the way back we stopped at Canadian Tire, just had to do a comparison shot.:eek: 2wd pickup vs mine. The 2wd is about even with my door sill.

06-07-2007, 10:18 PM
Pic #3, we 4x4'd up that trail may long. Some nice mud after that corner. kept goin up after that trail for 3 hours and hit snow.. good shots man, we gotta go wheelin soon.

06-07-2007, 10:20 PM
lookin good,get the 4wd workin and see how the locker works in the mud[36] [36] [36]

06-11-2007, 11:15 AM
I remember you showing that to my shop teacher at KSS

Looking good so far[36]

06-15-2007, 10:43 AM
Ya that was a fun day, the first to are of me driving and he did the other trail.
This little bump got its hands on the stock ebrake cable but she just pushed its way till it broke[16] thats what we get for going down an quad trail. guess your going to need a build a tranfer case ebrake and crossmenber eh.:D

Amiel Voth
06-15-2007, 08:39 PM
My truck gets the wierdest carnage. One of the first trips out when I got the truck, I broke the battery hold down and the antenna.:dontknow:

A transfer case e-brake would be the best. Least then I'd have one that worked.:confused0006:

Amiel Voth
08-07-2007, 09:24 PM
So I guess I should update this from time to time. I finally got a dual transfer case adapter from Marlin. Got the Crawlbox put together. All I need too do is get my extra rear shaft shortened so I can drive my truck after I swap in the crawlbox. I gotta rebuild my rear case as well, it's leaking like a sieve now.
I'm thinking of upgrading to some 37s or 38s. Anyone have a line on some reasonably priced ones?

08-07-2007, 09:30 PM
nice bling yo...

08-08-2007, 06:55 PM
looks good dude!

Amiel Voth
08-08-2007, 07:17 PM
Thanks, I musta played with that thing for like 15 minutes after I finished it. Building the crawl box was a lot easier than I thought it would be.

I also got Marlins new axle seals, figured I'd try them out. They look like a way better seal than the stockers.

Amiel Voth
08-10-2007, 09:14 PM
If everything goes right, I'll get my crawlbox in this weekend. Gotta rebuild the rear case first tho. Should be fun.:dontknow:

I gotta shorten my rear drive shaft, any ideas?

Amiel Voth
08-12-2007, 08:18 PM
I got my dual transfer cases installed today![36]

And I have to take them back out. :mad0217:

My donor case for my crawl box was from an 86, I forgot to shorten the drivers side shift rail. Basically, I can't shift my crawl box into high range.

Here it is assembled. I rebuilt the rear case. I didn't have anything to get the grease off, I'll pressure wash it sometime. You can see the shift rail I didn't shorten sticking out.:confused0006:

No pics of it installed, camera died. I'll get some when its done for good.

08-12-2007, 10:47 PM
Brake Clean.

Amiel Voth
08-13-2007, 11:44 AM
I mocked them up today and made a hole for the second case.

Here's what it looks like from underneath.

I gotta build a new crossmember for it, can't run a front driveshaft yet. unless I cut the crap out of the stock one.

08-13-2007, 12:05 PM
looks really sweet, gonna have some low gears for sure

Amiel Voth
08-15-2007, 08:59 PM
It moves!

Took it for a spin around the block. Man, double low is slooow.

Here is the final layout for the shifters.
All I need too do now is get a new crossmember, front driveshaft and install my Longfields and I'm 'done'.

09-12-2007, 09:57 PM
You got your junk done yet?[f]

sorry just had to[22]

Amiel Voth
09-12-2007, 10:12 PM
Hey, I got something done.
Looks hella better then it did before.

I need an antenna for my cb, anyone?

Amiel Voth
09-22-2007, 06:38 PM
I got my fibreglass fenders today! Thanks a bunch Corey!

I'll take some more tomorrow, the camera keeps taking blurry pics.

09-22-2007, 06:43 PM
lookin good,what did you pay for the fenders?[cheers]

09-22-2007, 06:49 PM
there $192.00 ea. http://www.toyotafiberglass.com you know the drill .

Looks good Amiel .. even if I do say so myself :)
and No ... the thanks goes to you . Thank you .

all kinds of clearance now huh ?

can I scoop a pic for my site ? .....

Amiel Voth
09-22-2007, 06:55 PM
About 400 bucks.

It was a bit tricky to get them on there. He leaves it up to the owner to drill all the holes. He also leaves some extra material by the door so you can make the gap even. Makes for a longer install, but a LOT cleaner.[cheers]

I'm really happy with them. The surface is really smooth on them. Its almost a shame to bolt them up to my heap. [9]

Aparently, I'm the first person to install them.:D

No problem, take whatever pic you want.

I'll take some better ones tomorrow. I might take the truck somewhere and take some overall shots.

I have TONS of room. The distance from the top of the tire before was just shy of 13". Now its around 16". Need bigger tires now....

Thanks for the compliment!

09-22-2007, 06:57 PM
Looks killer Amiel. No comparison to what it looked like when I bought that diff and t-case off of you. And no I still haven't put it in.

Amiel Voth
09-22-2007, 07:04 PM
Looks killer Amiel. No comparison to what it looked like when I bought that diff and t-case off of you. And no I still haven't put it in.

Haha, ya it has come a long ways since then. Are you still looking for a vent window for that thing?

09-22-2007, 09:19 PM
sweet :party0010:

09-22-2007, 09:24 PM
saw Corey working on those fenders when I dropped by, they turned out NICE! they still have the sameish shape of the stock flares:cool:

09-22-2007, 11:27 PM
yeah, still one vent and one full window. It doesn't matter as much right now I built a set of half doors for it. Nice work with your's you must've logged a lot of hours finishing it.

Amiel Voth
09-23-2007, 10:12 AM
I took some pictures this morning. It's hard to capture the shape of the fenders on camera.


The bodylines don't quite line up in this pic because my door is dented.

Ignore the bad paint and body, I'll be fixing it and repainting the truck soon. Maybe next summer.

I'll make a new bumper too, this one is toast. It looks really bad.

09-23-2007, 10:17 AM
damn those fenders look nice. Gonna be really nice man

09-23-2007, 01:06 PM
damn the fenders are better then i thought, should hurry my ass up and go get mine haha. looks good amiel!

09-23-2007, 02:42 PM
Lookin good bud [36] need me to get you some 40s now :confused0006:

Amiel Voth
09-23-2007, 04:43 PM
damn the fenders are better then i thought, should hurry my ass up and go get mine haha. looks good amiel!

Haha, I couldn't wait to get mine.

And yes, looks like I have room for some 4Dees. Wonder how the big block 22r would like them.:confused0006:

09-23-2007, 08:49 PM
looks real nice dude[36]

09-24-2007, 12:01 PM
looks awesome, dual cases are one of the best mods u can do [36][36][36][36]

09-24-2007, 09:52 PM
nice work

Amiel Voth
09-25-2007, 06:01 PM
Thanks for all the compliments guys.[cheers]

I put together a list of stuff I gotta get done:

New crossmember for the duals (I'm not sure what I'm going to do, I bought a rotated dual case adapter because they were out of stock on the regular ones. Was the same price.)

New front driveshaft

Install Longs

Have to do somthing about my piss-poor rear pinion angle, contacts on 'fast' (22r) starts.

It never ends....:dontknow:

03-05-2008, 11:09 PM
This junk done yet?:D