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A6D9
10-13-2006, 03:57 PM
let's say you had a 4 to 1 gears in your pumking. does that mean that for every 4 turns of the driveshaft equals 1 turn of the wheels?

or is it 1 turn of drive shaft equal 4 to the wheels?

got me an idea but need a way to get 1 turn on drive shaft to equal the best turns of the wheels?

have me a very torquie but very slow turning motor.

as in hydraulic motor....wana do a small thing for fun like a wagon. but needs some wheel speed and we all know most hydraulic motors are very slow...lol

any ideas? i figured it would allow for allmost unlimited clearance with a hydraulic motor, was thinking 4 motors one for each wheel or 2 one for front other for read and attach to a solid axel diff

opinions??

StinkFinger
10-13-2006, 04:07 PM
yep a normal dif is a reducer so 4 rev of ds is one rev at wheels

Toyquad
10-13-2006, 04:16 PM
[stupid] i concur...............................

A6D9
10-13-2006, 04:27 PM
damn a reverser eh? anybody got any ideas for a multilyer?

StinkFinger
10-13-2006, 04:32 PM
use a tranny backwards
an 1 tone 4spd will take it

A6D9
10-13-2006, 04:35 PM
great idea, i wonder if a tranny backwards would still be able to shift? that way you can play with the ratios at the same time? any idea?

you think this would work? or am i just in messed up idea land?
lol

StinkFinger
10-13-2006, 04:36 PM
it will still shift but it will not be sycronised so its more of a range box

A6D9
10-13-2006, 04:46 PM
ok english please...lol does that mean i can use it but only need it to be doubled shifted...

Toyquad
10-13-2006, 04:50 PM
double clutched................

StinkFinger
10-13-2006, 04:51 PM
becaus the stress is in the oposit direction to the syncro load and gear cut you will not be able to shift while moving

Toyquad
10-13-2006, 04:57 PM
you a smart man........... and yes im hitting on you........ i'll do whatever it takes to get o fields[15]

A6D9
10-13-2006, 05:55 PM
thanx for your info stinkfingers. looks like 2 motors might not work so good then, might be better off with 4 one for each wheel

unless you can think of any flaws with that idea as well?

kootenaycat
10-13-2006, 11:04 PM
becaus the stress is in the oposit direction to the syncro load and gear cut you will not be able to shift while moving

I don't agree. Because if your theory is true, then you shouldn't be able to downshift a normal vehicle without getting a grind! All a syncro does is equalize the speeds of 2 mating pieces (gears). Of course I am only thinking as a mechanic, so give me more of an engineering point of view! :D

mini
10-14-2006, 09:24 AM
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Grantman
10-14-2006, 09:27 AM
I don't agree. Because if your theory is true, then you shouldn't be able to downshift a normal vehicle without getting a grind! All a syncro does is equalize the speeds of 2 mating pieces (gears).

I'm agreein' with K-cat, synchros work in either direction of rotation, and gear loading wouldnt be an issue as long as the clutch still remained 'tween the engine and tranny.

Always broke
10-14-2006, 09:34 AM
I'm agreein' with K-cat, synchros work in either direction of rotation, and gear loading wouldnt be an issue as long as the clutch still remained 'tween the engine and tranny. Stinkfinger is right we have seen it done and you can't shift while moving that was the big problem with that setup but it does make a good range box[cheers]

Lucas
10-14-2006, 10:13 AM
ive seen lawnmowers that are hydaulic driven at each wheel..........whats the word for it ?????????/hydrostatic...............is that right?

trailburban
10-14-2006, 02:17 PM
forget the tranny, just use a shift on the fly transfer case backwards.
or any transfer case for that matter (just gotta stop to change speeds)

if all you want is gear multiplication then why no just get a plain gear box for an electric motor and mate that?

A6D9
10-15-2006, 05:50 AM
think an electric motor will hold up to the wear and tear?

I'm in research mode now. trying to find stuff out. :)

barracuda
10-15-2006, 08:47 AM
cheap way would be a chain drive system similar as to what is used in a skidsteer (bobcat type vehicle)

trailburban
10-15-2006, 05:13 PM
not the electric motor, just the rear reduction assembly used for them in conveyor belt systems.

epic3
10-15-2006, 06:29 PM
yeah Stinky is right when you flip the tranny the gears are now all turning in the opposite direction and the load surfaces are now on the other side of each gear cog
when you down shift you are chaning the load from input to output but the gears are all still rotating the same direction so the synchroes are still functional

trailburban
10-17-2006, 07:38 PM
[41] Then get a boat cam and spin the engine the other way [41]