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Toy_Runner
10-09-2006, 09:16 PM
what is a stock toyota crawl ratio?? 4 cyl 4.10 33's?

youngun
10-09-2006, 09:31 PM
pretty........crappy ..........[15]

Toy_Runner
10-09-2006, 09:36 PM
better than your with 33's

Toyquad
10-09-2006, 10:13 PM
i think toyota 1st gear is 3.96... or something like that ....... times that by 2.28(t case gears) and 4:10



3.96X2.28X4:10= 37. ......... thats assuming im right with the 1st gear ratio.... im to lazy to look it up

Toy_Runner
10-09-2006, 10:14 PM
ok that does suck then
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flipper
10-11-2006, 09:35 PM
probably someware around 45 -1. Ive got dual cases with stock gears,5.29s in the axels,and 35s wich gives me around 110-1.

trevyota
10-12-2006, 01:40 AM
it has nothing to do with 4 or 6 cyl engine..... or what size tires.

Big_Ern
10-12-2006, 10:03 AM
[stupid]


except that v6 & 4cyl have different tranny 1st gear ratios, but the difference is very little. I'm pretty sure they both have 2.28 in the t-case

Toyquad
10-12-2006, 06:31 PM
and even though tire size is not used when calculating the crawl ratio........ it makes a big difference when out on the trail......... 2 trucks... one with 40's[36] and one with 35's and same crawl ratio.......in most cases the truck with 35's will be more enjoyable to wheel........ except for the fact it doesnt have 40's[36] on it

ToyotaHEAD
10-13-2006, 12:42 AM
Most toy 4x4 trannys are around (1st gear) 3.8-3.9:1
The Turbo tranny is 4.313:1 1st gear

Bone stock trucks are generally around mid 30:1

In a Toyota:
For a 4cyl truck if you do serious crawling you want to aim approx 260:1
For a V6 truck aim 180-220ish:1
For a V8 aim 160:1

These ratios will give you a good offroad experience. And are ment more as a baseline for ROCK CRAWLERS.

Big_Ern
10-13-2006, 12:47 AM
260:1 is way more than you would ever need in my opinion. Even 200:1 on the low side

Toy_Runner
10-13-2006, 12:49 AM
260:1 how shit low, i would want around 120-150:1

Big_Ern
10-13-2006, 12:53 AM
120 is plenty for around here because we don't have the traction to take advantage of any lower gearing.

but somewhere like moab 150-200 is ideal IMO

ToyotaHEAD
10-13-2006, 12:53 AM
anyone that has driven these 3 different drivetrains would agree. And lets not forget, this is turning 37+ inch rubber (which I forgot to mention)