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GOT MUD
09-27-2006, 11:40 PM
i got an '83 shortbox toy, with a deck, 8.5"sl, 3"bl, 200+hp 22r, stock 411 gears welded. stock 5spd trans & t-case. and well i've gotta say I NEED MORE POWER!!!!!!!!!! i have a '68 302 with over 300hp, auto , and what i've been told is a dodge 205 divorced t-case, that we're puttin in it hopefully really soon. so the question is.... driveshaft angles.. better or worse.. oh ya front & rear axles have both been moved 2" or so. and the other question. is it hard to keep that motor cool in the toy? cause i've been told they run pretty hot.

Hyenuf
09-27-2006, 11:42 PM
I've got some real power here if ya want!!!

kamloopsyota
09-27-2006, 11:42 PM
200+hp 22r???????????????

GOT MUD
09-28-2006, 12:45 AM
ya, so i've been told by the guy that built it. which is a good friend of mine. it's never been on the dino, but it kicks ass. put it this way, at the drags, side by side, the guy that built my motor, with about 380hp 350ci. in his yota,with 488's locked front & rear, pretty much equal pits, me in mine, with so i've been told is over 200hp, stock 411's welded in the rear, and he only beat me by about 1.5 seconds with a 7sec. run. ya it's a screamer

GOT MUD
09-28-2006, 12:47 AM
oh ya forgot to mention. NEED MORE HP!!!!!!!!

Big_Ern
09-28-2006, 01:14 AM
is it turbo'd, s/c'd or on NOS? or a combination? cause there's no way in fuckin hell that a n/a 22r could produce anywhere near 200hp. even with a turbo or s/c I highly doubt it...:rolleyes:

trevyota
09-28-2006, 01:45 AM
[stupid]

seem's kinda. well. it's a nice story.

bakelite
09-28-2006, 01:59 AM
http://www.toyotaperformance.com/engines/stage5.htm



with enough money...anything is possible.

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 02:35 AM
is it turbo'd, s/c'd or on NOS? or a combination? cause there's no way in fuckin hell that a n/a 22r could produce anywhere near 200hp. even with a turbo or s/c I highly doubt it...:rolleyes:


Thats where your wrong[22]

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kamloopsyota
09-28-2006, 03:16 AM
those things are like 4 grand though arent they, stock engine only has 96 horses, adding more shit would just put an assload of strain on it would it not??

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 04:47 AM
this engines are built top of the line about 7kus for one lol, you have to built everything to make the engine hold. Don't know much about this shit but if u have the money LC is where it's at [36][36][36][36][36][36][36][36]

Toy_Runner
09-28-2006, 08:17 AM
take some pictures of the motor, and when you pull it out, to throw in a smal block, i want it if its acually what you say it is??[33]

BUT PICTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOT MUD
09-28-2006, 08:25 AM
well big ern if you know what your talking about then i guess i bin done bullshitted. it does'nt have a turbo or nos or s/c. it's bored 50over with a mild cam, ported and polished head and a header. so what do you think its pushin.

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 03:32 PM
125 more or less


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StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 03:38 PM
hey rescee that motor is worth more than your truck therer 10 grand buy the time there in canada

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 03:40 PM
I know pure sexy sex sex

kamloopsyota
09-28-2006, 03:43 PM
toyotahead had a nice 22r in his first gen, never told me what he paid for it all though, but he used LC stuff im pretty sure

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 03:45 PM
You can get great lc rebuild kits for a good deal thinkthere only $350us for one. But no one up here has a complete motor

kamloopsyota
09-28-2006, 03:48 PM
whatcha mean no one has a complete motor???

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 03:50 PM
no one has a complet lc built and tunned motor
is what he ment

kamloopsyota
09-28-2006, 03:51 PM
oh haha i thought he ment no one has a complete 22r.....

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 03:52 PM
seems that way some days

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 03:55 PM
ya thats what I ment, no one up here as a complet lc dammm one day I can dream

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 04:00 PM
they have a supercharged efi one as well its only 12grand

Big_Ern
09-28-2006, 04:00 PM
125 more or less


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[stupid]

maybe a bit more than 125, but definitely not more than 150. Still pretty damn good for a 22r though:cool:

Big_Ern
09-28-2006, 04:02 PM
they have a supercharged efi one as well its only 12grand
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kamloopsyota
09-28-2006, 04:09 PM
heres a 200+HP 22r http://www.toyotacatalog.net/M1WebGear/ProductDetails.aspx?PartUniqueID=28D58C56-85B4-45E0-9D5F-425D5455FA93

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 04:13 PM
thats what wer talking about and its had a little more done to it than


bored 50over with a mild cam, ported and polished head and a header.

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 04:18 PM
well if your just dreaming why not a combo 3rz with a super charger

Tmax
09-28-2006, 04:23 PM
you can get 200 horse out of a 22r but it wont be very nice usable horsepower. to get a nice torque curve you require fuel injection, computer management and possibly variable valve timing. in theory every ten cc in a well build motor can produce about 1 horsepower when naturally aspirated so a 2.5 little 22r should be able to produce 250 horses. if you add supercharging or turbocharching then sky is the limit. i think in early 80's a 1.8L F1 turbo motor produced about 1000 plus hourspwer.

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 04:36 PM
no need to yell and the 22r is only a 2.4ltr

Tmax
09-28-2006, 04:39 PM
was i yelling?
i know a 22r is a 2.4 was assuming a bored out motor would be about 2.5. thats all man.

StinkFinger
09-28-2006, 05:06 PM
yeh that makes sense still with a little head work a cam and a heder 200 not a hope
is like ever ass hole and there 400 horse 350

Tmax
09-28-2006, 06:28 PM
yeh that makes sense still with a little head work a cam and a heder 200 not a hope
is like ever ass hole and there 400 horse 350

ya you hear that all the time. most 400 horse motors are more like 240 honest horses.
[cheers]

GOT MUD
09-28-2006, 08:33 PM
thanks for all the info on the my 22r hp with the way its built all the more reason to do the conversion. so back to that, what does a guy do to keep the 302 cool in the toy. any suggestions would be great

89Ford
09-28-2006, 08:40 PM
a good rad and a good fan????

Murd0c
09-28-2006, 08:51 PM
dual electric fans

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johny5
09-28-2006, 09:15 PM
hay murdoug , there is a black 4 runner around town with a LC engine in it , cost him 10 k instaled then another 2+k to get it running right,
i put a low km 4.3 in for half that, with all the adapters and an auto
and i ant got 200h , but it dose go good

epic3
09-28-2006, 10:15 PM
Talk to Godzuka he`s done a 302 in a toy Reeces Toy infact and it`s a mint install from what I saw

gumboot
09-29-2006, 03:52 PM
man, you may be able to get 250hp out of a 22r, but it ain't gonna last long. Sure the sky's the limit, shit I could prob build a 22r with 1000hp if I wanted with the right amount of boost, but it ain't gonna last long. You're goin to want reliablility to go with the hp.

Man, if you want more hp, and are a fan of Toyota, get a 5mge or 7mge and throw it in. The 7m has 180hp and 180ftlbs or torque. Not too hard to get em over the 2oohp mark either. And if that's not enough, get a 7mgte and do the customizing it needs, then the sky is the limit to the hp you can put out. You're just goin to run into problems with other shit breaking though with a 302 or 7mgte.

GOT MUD
09-29-2006, 08:36 PM
what kinda shit you talkin about.. if it can break it can be fixed. can't it? hahaha. thats not realy a big deal. i just want to be able to keep the wheels turning, where the 4cyl. does'nt keep pullin.. don't get me wrong though the 22r has'nt let me down.

sj-x 500
09-29-2006, 09:23 PM
i would recomend a 7mgte. wicked power. aftermarket support, and bolts into the stock tranny.

otherwise, a adapter to go to a toy tranny from the 302 would be easy.

GOT MUD
09-29-2006, 09:38 PM
no need for adapters, i got a '68 302-C4 and a dodge 205 divorced for pretty much nothin, oh no actually i can get the t-case for a hun, so its all just waiting there