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EIEIO
09-05-2006, 10:27 AM
that bolts to a turbo350? I have been searching on Pirate for soemthing and can't find anything. Kristi and I have been in discussions [7]

Tmax
09-05-2006, 10:32 AM
didint the old 6.2's use turbo 350's

what are you trying to do?

Jeepnut
09-05-2006, 10:36 AM
the 6.2 diesel and the 6.5 I believe also does. I had a 1988 6.2 that I blew the tranny up in and Benz when they rebuilt it said it was a 350 but that the torque converter was different than a standard t350. then the 6.2 blew up so i put in a 6.5 long block and bolted the rest of the 6.2 parts up to it. But if you want you can call Diesel Auto they are in Maple Ridge #604-460-1066. they would know better than I..............

B
09-05-2006, 10:38 AM
be a tad heavy 4 a toy thou ... but the rear tires would diffenatly last as they would never touch the ground ....:)

EIEIO
09-05-2006, 10:40 AM
How much heavier is it? Are we talkiing stupid ridiculous heavy? And we would not have the toyota front and rear diff. 60/14 combo. We are just deciding which would be better for us, turn the toy into a true tow truck or buy a CTD. Cause doing a swap would probably be cheaper in the long run if we have already paid for the truck.

Tmax
09-05-2006, 10:41 AM
be a tad heavy 4 a toy thou ... but the rear tires would diffenatly last as they would never touch the ground ....:)

hmmm. toyota? i would use a 22R. more power and probably better milage too.

EIEIO
09-05-2006, 10:42 AM
It wouldn't happen till after our wedding, but I would like to gather as much info as possible and try and figure costs out.

Diesel - Turbo350 - Toy t-case - 60 front, Corp 14 rear. Extend the rear wheel base about 5 inches, leaf springs all around.

EIEIO
09-05-2006, 10:42 AM
hmmm. toyota? i would use a 22R. more power and probably better milage too.

Not for rock crawling, this would be for hauling a zuk if need be.

B
09-05-2006, 10:47 AM
How much heavier is it? Are we talkiing stupid ridiculous heavy? And we would not have the toyota front and rear diff. 60/14 combo. We are just deciding which would be better for us, turn the toy into a true tow truck or buy a CTD. Cause doing a swap would probably be cheaper in the long run if we have already paid for the truck.



i belive so .. from small block to big block is 300 lb to 400 lb more ive be told ruffly...and the diesel will be another 500 lb on top of that plus the 6.2 and the 6.5 's are notorious for being not the ones to have ... but anything can be done :) id just but a complete diesel truck and tow them both and have a camper to sleep in at the trail head ... [cheers]

EIEIO
09-05-2006, 11:07 AM
800lbs, dayyyum!! maybe fuck that. I should go get my truck weighed and see if I could haul it as is.

Pudge
09-05-2006, 11:09 AM
Your 305 will pull it fine. Why you wanna go through the greif of changing it? You haven't got it on the road yet.

Jeepnut
09-05-2006, 11:10 AM
the 6.2 was a junk motor the 6.5 wasn't much better. Really the only difference between the blocks was the 6.5 has thicker webbing in between the crank journals and hardened pistons for the turbo.

Tmax
09-05-2006, 11:10 AM
800lbs, dayyyum!! maybe fuck that. I should go get my truck weighed and see if I could haul it as is.

try out a car trailer empty and see what it takes to tow it. they are not light. a toyota is a trail rig and theye dont tow very well.

Tmax
09-05-2006, 11:11 AM
the 6.2 was a junk motor the 6.5 wasn't much better. Really the only difference between the blocks was the 6.5 has thicker webbing in between the crank journals and hardened pistons for the turbo.

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EIEIO
09-05-2006, 11:18 AM
try out a car trailer empty and see what it takes to tow it. they are not light. a toyota is a trail rig and theye dont tow very well.

Well its already got the v8/turbo350 in it, and its definately not going to be a rock crawler. Just a lax trail/camping rig. Just wanna check my options for everything.

And Paul, it should be ready by the weekend hopefully, all 4 tires go on it today. [36]

If its going to add that much more weight, than fuck it, no point, its not a powerhouse anyways. I will do what you said Sas, maybe I will hook up my dads boat and see if I can haul that thing no problem. My truck (zuk) can't weight more than 3K lbs.

Pudge
09-05-2006, 11:25 AM
your zuki will be less than 3 k I'm sure. My truck with a 1/2 tank of fuel and np tools or spare was 1690kg's

sj-x 500
09-05-2006, 04:21 PM
1. the toy's frame will not like it
2. the toy's suspension will not like it.
3. the toy's t-case will not handle the heat.


if you do go diesel, just go with a 2.4 toy diesel. but the 305 will tow just fine for just a sammi.

EIEIO
09-05-2006, 04:24 PM
What about sami and gear back of the truck (ie. camping shit, for like going down to MOAB/Rubi)

tenpack
09-05-2006, 07:19 PM
im trying to find the wieght of a cummins 4bt, but im assuming heavy.

Nutbar
09-05-2006, 07:27 PM
The 6.2/6.5 are junk engines they weigh a little more than a big block chev they do use T350s and T400s but they use the Buick, Olds, Pontiac bellhousing pattern (different than small block/big block chev pattern)

sj-x 500
09-05-2006, 07:45 PM
man... most guys can tow a sammi with a full size chev with a 305/350. let alone a sammi that weighs like 2800 with spares and gear, plus a trailer, and camping gear... or a toy with that running gear.you be fine!

stuckle
09-05-2006, 07:49 PM
i didnt mind the 6.5's... just dont get one a 93 because there the first year of the electronic injection pump...

and there not bad... biggest thing you need to do is make sure the fuel solenoid driver is kept cool cause thats where the 6.5s had problems...

weve had lots of them and only had problems with the fsd's and the odd injection pump...

Lucas
09-05-2006, 09:21 PM
I thought of doing a diesel project in my s10 i was going to use a izuzu diesel out of a new gmc/hino cab over using the tranny with it and runing a divorsed atlas the weight was the main issue,would probably be a extra 350lbs plus winch plus lights ,i would rather keep the weight down.
i had a 01 cummins motor that i thought of puttin into my 69 but thought twice.
keep your tow rigs/daily drivers seperate from your toys,why would you want a heavily modified rig not designed to be a tow rig pullin your toy thats what the make dually diesel's for.
not to mention what are you going to put all this stuff into a toyota frame that would be crazy

Big_Ern
09-05-2006, 10:43 PM
doesn't metter what motor you put in it. a toy still hcan't handle the wieght. You may have the power, but you don't want a trailer that will be overpowering your tow rig.

I think you zuk is closer to 4k than it is to 3k, add that to a tandem axle car trailer and its too much wieght for a little toy.

Nutbar
09-05-2006, 10:47 PM
I tried to tow a couple of cars with my little comanche I have the class 3 hitch and trailer brake controler in it and it was a little nerve racking, couldn't stop it worth a shit and the trailer had a pretty good tendancy to push the truck around in the corners.

Lucas
09-09-2006, 07:49 PM
you can pull anything with anything its stopping thats the hard part.
on the hope-princton hwy on the long weekend there was a s10 blazer towing a 26+++ foot trailer ,....wow never seen anything so stupid.
i have a s10 and have done brakes there the same as a midsized car
SCARY!

78f150
09-09-2006, 07:58 PM
Buy a Dodge and call it a day.

78f150
09-09-2006, 08:00 PM
The best diesel chev has ever had is the Duramax before that their was only two Diesels a cummins and a Powerstroke.

tenpack
09-09-2006, 08:36 PM
The best diesel chev has ever had is the Duramax before that their was only two Diesels a cummins and twin turbo cummins.

fixed.


6.5's arent horrible engines, but they are too great either. Our work truck is a 6.5L and tows skid steer bobcats and 2000 lb trailers daily, its not a bad engine but its had 3 major injection pump issues.


why not look into a early 7.3L? 88-94 i do beleive, good runners and are very reliable from what ive heard. Still not a 12v cummins.

BeerBaron Sr.
09-12-2006, 08:06 PM
i belive so .. from small block to big block is 300 lb to 400 lb more ive be told ruffly...and the diesel will be another 500 lb on top of that plus the 6.2 and the 6.5 's are notorious for being not the ones to have ... but anything can be done :) id just but a complete diesel truck and tow them both and have a camper to sleep in at the trail head ... [cheers]BULLSHIT----- The 6.2 is about 50 LBS Heaver than a BB Chev.
If you want something that will run forever, the 6.2-6.5 is a good choice
reliable not lots of power[sorry,speed]lots of power in the bush,no speed on the highway,depends what you want?????????????

Tmax
09-12-2006, 08:09 PM
BULLSHIT----- The 6.2 is about 50 LBS Heaver than a BB Chev.
If you want something that will run forever, the 6.2-6.5 is a good choice
reliable not lots of power[sorry,speed]lots of power in the bush,no speed on the highway,depends what you want?????????????

sorry but the 6.2 and 6.5 dont run for ever. in fact i think they are a sad excuse for a diesel motor.

BeerBaron Sr.
09-12-2006, 08:12 PM
Buy a Dodge and call it a day.

Good motor ,rest of the truck is shit. Aftersales prove this time&time again.

Punk in Drublic
09-28-2006, 03:00 PM
what about a 3b?? thems be a good little deisel, and its toy.

tenpack
09-28-2006, 09:04 PM
good suggestion, funny how noone thought to put a toy diesel in a toy pickup.haha

3B: 4cyl dieseler pumping out 90HP@3500 and 159 ft/trq@2200, 2 vavles per cylinder, naturually aspirated.

Looks like toyota made a 3B-t too: same displacedment but 120HP@3400 and 210@2000. Now, i'm sure these are nice and rare, but if you could stumble upon one they seem to be pretty stout.

http://www.off-road.com/tlc/faq/engine.html

Big_Ern
09-29-2006, 09:06 AM
no one said anything about toy diesels because he asked about a motor that would bolt up to his th350 tranny[wako]

epic3
09-29-2006, 06:36 PM
Where is EIEIO anyhow?
Did he get the boot too?

Tmax
09-29-2006, 06:37 PM
ya he got the boot man...........

Big_Ern
09-29-2006, 06:44 PM
no, he left on his own


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B
09-29-2006, 07:31 PM
no, he left on his own


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i kinda miss the little fucker ......:eek:

sj-x 500
09-29-2006, 09:53 PM
most diesel fanatics blame the 6.2/6.5 for the declining deisel sales in the 80-90's... single handedly nearly killed teh diesel market.

u-can-2
09-29-2006, 10:18 PM
i kinda miss the little fucker ......:eek:

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u2slow
09-30-2006, 06:36 PM
The 6.2L never came with a TH350, just a TH700 or TH400 auto. No reason it won't bolt up though - converter stall speed and shift points will need to be looked at.

IMO the autos really suck bad since the 6.2 is not a powerhouse by any means. You don't need to throwing 10-20% of it away with a slushbox.

92-93 is the best years for a 6.5TD as they are still a mechanical-pump engine.

The Cummins 3.9L is a heavy mofo - like 800lbs or so. :eek:

1_ton_k5
10-01-2006, 12:48 PM
Lots of great misinformation here.

6.2 is heavy...not really. It's actually lighter than a big block, although heavier than a small block.

6.2 uses BOP pattern...wrong. It uses a standard Chev pattern.

6.2's are junk...this one is mostly opinion, but most 6.2's will outlast a small block before needing a rebuild. They do need a bit more maintenance though.

The worst thing about the 6.2 was that it followed directly after a diesel that should never have made it to production...the 5.7L Olds based diesel. Even 30 years later the 6.2 gets confused with the Olds 5.7. The fact is they have nothing in common aside from both being V-8 and both being NA.

The Olds 5.7 sure should take most of the blame for almost killing diesel sales for GM.

I'm not saying the 6.2 is the best diesel engine ever, but it does really well at what it was designed for. Light duty, great fuel mileage. In a full size truck the weight penalty is unnoticeable. With a manual tranny the power/acceleration is fine...with good gearing I have found power/acceleration to be on par with the mildly built 350 i yanked.

For crawlin and general wheeling I love it. It'll run at any angle without the slightest stumble or stutter, has gobs of off-idle torque, and I can wheel all day on about $15 worth of fuel. For regular driving I was averaging 19-20 mpg on the highway...without overdrive and on 39.5" TSL's. 26-28 in not unheard of for a 6.2.

Mine has 365,000 km on it, and still going strong.

Rene

u2slow
10-01-2006, 12:58 PM
The worst thing about the 6.2 was that it followed directly after a diesel that should never have made it to production...the 5.7L Olds based diesel.

The modern remedy for the Olds diesel is ARP bolts for the mains, rods, and heads. Supposedly just as good as a 6.2L after that.