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dilbert_1239
09-03-2006, 10:27 PM
just curious cuz i hear alot of talk on here about lockers. i have a 1975 jimmy. would it be worth it to put front and rear lockers in it that way all 4 wheels spins. if it is worth it are the air lockers worth it. price ranges would be great too. good locking kits vs cheap locking kits?

gnu_42
09-03-2006, 10:49 PM
weld em if your not gunna be driving it around town a lot

dilbert_1239
09-03-2006, 10:57 PM
it'll be my daily driver too, so i cant do that. are there any other besides air or no?

MetalMan
09-03-2006, 10:57 PM
It's pretty much common sense that the more wheels you're turning the better it's going to be offroad...you have to decide if the off to on road ratio justifies it, because it will eat more gas and accelerate (rear) tire wear on the road. Air lockers have the advantage of being disengagable, hence they would be great for dual purpose but they're also ridiculously expensive once all is said and done.

Tunabomber
09-03-2006, 11:36 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmlockers[36]

trevyota
09-03-2006, 11:50 PM
nope.....

there not.


infact....


just take your bike... your truck's safer at home.

m j
09-03-2006, 11:51 PM
detroits

trevyota
09-04-2006, 12:13 AM
all depends on the application.

UU
09-04-2006, 09:09 AM
Do it.

That way I won't have to pull out, over or through shit

runner
09-04-2006, 10:36 AM
I just had a Detroit put in the rear and it's awesome!

Chewtoy
09-04-2006, 11:39 AM
Anyone who has ever questioned the worthiness of a locked axle has never had one.... you never hear a guy say "You know, the detroit I had in my first Jeep worked awesome, do you think if I put one in my new Jeep it would work as good, or maybe don't bother?" They never ask because they already know...

Ditchpig
09-04-2006, 05:21 PM
An inexpensive alternative to the expensive lockers are the Aussie Lockers. They are about 250 bucks US per and work great.

arjan
09-04-2006, 06:53 PM
If you're asking if lockers are worth it, you probably won't need them.

ddog75blazer
09-04-2006, 07:59 PM
lockers [5][5][5]

Toyquad
09-04-2006, 08:28 PM
[49] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm lincoln lockers[49]

Squishy
09-04-2006, 08:32 PM
atleast lock the rear, i dont know what you got for tires or axles but the front probably wont hold up as well as the rear

matt spew
09-05-2006, 12:08 AM
try a cheap locker for the front and somthin better for the back you only lockin the front off road so its not so bad but the back is always in use

Stetson
09-05-2006, 01:08 PM
If your not getting where you want to go, buy a locker. If you are, then use the money and take your girl out for dinner. Night and day difference.Detroits rock!

Larry
09-05-2006, 06:24 PM
get a locker for sure!

tenpack
09-06-2006, 07:05 PM
See if you are getting a lot of single wheel spin while the other isnt. Say your coming out of a mudhole and your left front is spinning widly and your right front is just rolling with no power to it, its cause you got an open diff . If you were to a have a locker, say a detriot, both your wheels would be spinning at the same rate. Basically, when you have an open diff, you're sometimes only getting power to 2 wheels.

dilbert_1239
09-07-2006, 07:22 PM
yea after reading all this i think i am gonna go get a locker. does anyone have any clue of what they are worth. say if i wanted to lock both the front and rear that way i have a TRUE 4X4 lol. not just 2 wheels with power to them. just a average price range. from the cheapest to the most expensive

Toy_Runner
09-07-2006, 07:53 PM
how much do you want to spend

Dr. B
09-07-2006, 08:09 PM
richmond lock-right, $286 to my door from randy's ring and pinion in washington. this was for my 4runner though.

exo_toy
09-07-2006, 08:32 PM
just a suggestion;
If you have no idea about a locker and what it costs/involves, maybe you arent ready for one.
Alot of these guys just say: hell ya lock it up front and rear!!!
But do you really know what you are getting yourself into?

Dont get me wrong, lockers are great- if you need them.

You said it is a daily driver. So it isnt a built trail rig. Smaller tires, mild suspension, and Im guessing you are fairly new to wheelin?

If you have less expirience driving trails, lockers can sometimes get you into more trouble.

The nice thing about learning with open diffs, is that it gives you a better feel for the truck and allows a little more room for driver error.
if you get a little offcamber and pick up a wheel, it will spin and keep you from going farther. The locker will allow you to keep going and possibly flop.

So, if you feel you are ready for a locker, buy a cheaper one $250usd (lockrite,e-z locker, aussie locker) and have it installed in the rear.

Leave the front open for the time being.

just my $.02

sj-x 500
09-07-2006, 08:41 PM
i am with 86 toy here, learn to wheel first. with a locker you can push yourself into a roll over situation.

if it is a dd, detroit e-z locker does help, but it is not known to be strong. toss it in the rear before you do the front, whe nyou lok the front you are pretty much unable to turn quickly. learn how your truck preforms with no lockers first, then decide if you have that much problems with wheelin then you can lock up the ass end and decide from there.

m j
09-07-2006, 08:56 PM
wheeling without a locker is an exercise in futility

the lunchbox lockers do not perfom as well as a real detroit IMO

sj-x 500
09-07-2006, 08:59 PM
not everyone needs to conquer the rock pile to feel they are wheeling

83Toy4x4
09-07-2006, 09:00 PM
I have a detriot locker in the back and I love it, It'll be lots of fun in the snow, if you have money, go detroit in the back and air up front.

dilbert_1239
09-08-2006, 07:34 PM
well thats another thing i am afraid of. i dont wanna put a locker in just to say i have a locker. lol i want to actually use it. will i notice a HUGE difference in 4 wheeling. like will i be able to conquer ALOT more stuff? what would the cost of instal and everything be. like a labour charge(how many hours)

m j
09-08-2006, 07:43 PM
yes you will notice a huge difference
amazing difference if you put in front and rear detroits

exo_toy
09-08-2006, 09:02 PM
im done with this thread [16] [16]

REZ
09-08-2006, 09:18 PM
you can weld the front because u only engage it when u offroad, so it doesnt effect your daily rid.
just weld it good or it wont last.
by the way anyone knows that if "lock rite" for tracker can be engaged and disengage??????

exo_toy
09-08-2006, 09:34 PM
im done with this thread [16] [16]

or so I thought....[27]

Have you ever run a welded front diff?? jesus..[16]

Tmax
09-08-2006, 09:39 PM
or so I thought....[27]

Have you ever run a welded front diff?? jesus..[16]

[15] just ask aaron. he thinks its his tires that blow beeds but in reality he just cant steer and keep on hitting shit.

sbags
09-08-2006, 11:13 PM
10 bolt c-clip rear and 44 front?! Keep the tires under a 35 and don't wear heavy right boots!!!Could always just fill the rear diff with duct tape, I heard Red Green still driving his junk! Wanna buy a bridge?[f]

OldEnuff
09-09-2006, 02:42 AM
Just a locked rear will make a HUGE difference when offroading.........

however it will also make a HUGE difference when driving on the road.

not bad on dry pavement but until you get the feel for it driving on wet/snowy/icy roads..pavement or gravel..there is a real possibility for unwanted/uncontrolled spin outs when yer on the pedal, especially around corners.
A welded diff is even worse...at least a locker will allow the outside tire to turn faster than the inside tire but ONLY IF YOU ARE COASTING ... if yer on the gas it's the same as welded.


My truck is locked front and rear and I can't imagine wheeling without it .... but it is definately more challenging than driving with open diffs

In The Zone
09-09-2006, 07:52 AM
well thats another thing i am afraid of. i dont wanna put a locker in just to say i have a locker. lol i want to actually use it. will i notice a HUGE difference in 4 wheeling. like will i be able to conquer ALOT more stuff? what would the cost of instal and everything be. like a labour charge(how many hours)


dude with a detroit in the rear u dont have to tell peeps [f] they will know[15]

as for conquering more stuff well that depends on your skills as a driver your rig will be more capable.
but that does not mean u will be.....easier to get your self in trouble at the same time....

it is a learning curve on street and pavment..



personally i would never own a vehicle without minimum one locker..

REZ
09-10-2006, 04:42 PM
or so I thought....[27]

Have you ever run a welded front diff?? jesus..[16]
what is wrong with having front welded
when its not engaged it doesent change anything[f]
your wheels spins not your drive axle so not your diff
and i gone weld my front tracker's diff soon..

dilbert_1239
09-10-2006, 06:29 PM
yea well my jimmy is full time 4x4 so welding the front wouldnt be and option for disenganging the front. lol id have all 4 spinning ALL the time and i bet that would be hard to get used to on pavement. lol

sbags
09-10-2006, 11:07 PM
I would contact Milemarker for a full-time eliminator kit(for chain driven New Process 203 transfer case) which would give you part time 4x4. Some Warn lock-out hubs will let you run in free-wheeling mode Or bolt in a gear driven NP 205 gear driven transfer case; there should be lots around. Make sure it's got the right side output shaft(driveshaft to the front) for your front axle and you may also need the crossmember for it as well. I'd then get a 14 Bolt GM rear end with a Detroit locker and a 3/4 ton Dana 44 front....Or D60($$$) with an Ox locker or something that you can lock-up 100% or UN-LOCK 100% giving you no FRONT end issues. The back will still be squirly sometimes as mentioned to you already. Good luck!