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MetalMan
08-27-2006, 09:22 PM
Just looking to get input from you guys, which are better in trails? Or are they about equal? I'm hearing about roadblocks to Stave, which will severely limit how much mud my rig sees. Obviously mud is where Boggers shine, so what about the rest of it? Are they as good for any other kind of wheeling?

MetalMan
08-27-2006, 09:25 PM
So I forgot there's a special poll section, and I have no idea how to get rid of the poll. Sweet...

exo_toy
08-27-2006, 09:26 PM
them tires is alright, but nuthin beats dem thornturds!

MetalMan
08-27-2006, 09:36 PM
So I hear, problem is I plan to wheel it...

Big_Ern
08-27-2006, 09:43 PM
IROKs

MetalMan
08-27-2006, 09:45 PM
Not a fan of IROK's in the slightest. I'll definetely be running one of these two tires, maybe even a front Swamper rear Bogger combo? Could be the best of both worlds?

MetalMan
08-27-2006, 09:48 PM
By the way, for those that are voting, I'd love to know why you're voting the way you are...I'd like to base my decision more on discussion.

surreysinner
08-27-2006, 09:52 PM
I've run both swampers and boggers.

Boggers seemed quite a bit better all around then swampers.

The on thing I found with boggers is they pull hard on the pavement in divets. I really didnt feel 100% comfortable with 40" boggers on pavement but with 38.5 swampers I felt the ride was much better for handling.

I think the boggers out back and swampers up front is a good idea.

MetalMan
08-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Good to know...has anybody heard anything about Boggers having thin cores? One guy has been telling me his buddy had his Boggers puncture from rocks between the lugs...sounds odd to me, I thought these things were thick enough to be regrooved?

sj-x 500
08-27-2006, 10:18 PM
they are thick, but they do have a vulnerable spot in the center of the lugs if spun on the rocks.

boggers are like fucking glue! i can drive up walls with mine.

ri0
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
why don't you like the Irock's?

I have seen them wheel and was impressed...not over excited on how soft the sidewall is...but I like em...

B
08-27-2006, 10:21 PM
bogger swamper combo sucks .....[wako]......

Big_Ern
08-27-2006, 10:23 PM
Not a fan of IROK's in the slightest. I'll definetely be running one of these two tires, maybe even a front Swamper rear Bogger combo? Could be the best of both worlds?


why not?

From what i have seen first hand they are probably the best trail tire for our terrain.


Ideal combo I think would be boggers rear (heavily grooved) and Irok's front. unfortunatley they don't make any boggers & iroks in the same diameter


I run TSL SX's now, and my next set of tire will be irok's


iroks are also much cheaper than any other interco tire

Big Mitch
08-27-2006, 10:29 PM
I've seen boggers and swampers wheel. I think boggers are the way to go...but they wear down fast on pavement. I think other tires on the road and boggers offroad is the best way to go.

trevyota
08-28-2006, 12:08 AM
i would take a iroc or a bogger over a swamper...


you can get the radial iroc's too... they'll last a bit longer..

all depend's on what you want to do though none of us have to drive your rig.

kamloopsyota
08-28-2006, 12:13 AM
and the 36" irok is bigger then the 37 as well. but whats the difference in the radial versus bias irok's besides the obvious????? sorry if this is hijacking

Big_Ern
08-28-2006, 12:16 AM
tread compund is different as well i have heard. hence the better wearing and less grip for radials

Blazerboy
08-28-2006, 12:19 AM
BOGGERS

Toy_Runner
08-28-2006, 12:21 AM
i would go with swampers, boggers wear to fast on pavement

UU
08-28-2006, 12:23 AM
On my second set of boggers now, my next set will probably be the Swamper SX, just for something different.

MudRam
08-28-2006, 11:19 AM
Im kinda partial to boggers, for mud and trails but there not he greatest pavement tire. Most guys dont daily drive boggers anyway....[cheers]

FINGERS
08-28-2006, 11:43 AM
boggers arnt fer drivin on the road there made fer wheelin

CITYSLICKER
08-28-2006, 02:24 PM
i am goin to swamper up front and bogger in the back ..

reason : swampers be narrower === better turning radius for me
and then i will have full size spares tooo!!

Murd0c
08-28-2006, 02:33 PM
I like my iroks clean out really nicer in the bush. Boggers wear way to fast if you don't trailer your truck

England
08-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Ok 2 of my mates run boggers some do a high amount of street !! These are not street tire if u wanna include them into the street u will get about 2 years hardwwheeling and driving outa them !which is not bad for the tire they are but they are not ment for the street !plus boggers look way cooler !

epic3
08-28-2006, 03:17 PM
Sears Roadhandler[36] [36] [36]
boggrs and swampers suck lemons

Kevin
08-28-2006, 03:39 PM
boggers dont have lateral traction opposed to a swamper

England
08-28-2006, 03:45 PM
boggers dont have lateral traction opposed to a swamper

this a very true point but i have seen people with boggers to great n the snow !!!!!which surprised the crap outa me ...Because of the reason u state !

In The Zone
08-28-2006, 03:54 PM
i would run swampers but i personally would rather control vs all out digging traction....

Big_Ern
08-28-2006, 04:02 PM
this a very true point but i have seen people with boggers to great n the snow !!!!!which surprised the crap outa me ...Because of the reason u state !


boggers work good in the snow, because deep snow is very similar to mud. You want large lugs with a bit of tire speed to keep them clean.

StinkFinger
08-28-2006, 04:20 PM
cut boggers all the way

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 05:45 PM
The main thing I don't like about Iroks is the sidewalls, I have heard they are not very sturdy...so what about a Bogger rear, Irok front combo? Looking at the website, 36" Iroks are the same height as a 37" Bogger, oddly enough. But do Iroks wheel? I've always thought of them as more of a "for show" tire, something you'd put on a pavement princess. Correct me if I'm wrong. Lot's of good info and opinions here, keep it coming!

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 07:33 PM
I have had 36 inch iroks and 37 inch boggers in the last year and loved them both the 36 irok 37 bogger combo would look funny because the irok center section (bead to bead) is way wider than the 13 wide bogger i loved both tires alot I think the irok's where a better all around tire especialy in the snow because of the overall fatness flotation and siping but i like how the boogers have real deep lugs and dig like hell in almost anything. boggers shook less and pulled less on the street.

I havent had swampers yet so my vot is for the boggers if you want a real wide tire you cant go wrong with the 36x13.5 irok

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 07:37 PM
and for your money iroks my 36x13.5x15's where $960 deliverd to westbank

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 07:52 PM
Hm I'm not terribly worried about looks, you think a Bogger/Irok combo would be a good choice for pretty much anything I come across? I've got welded diffs front and rear...

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 08:38 PM
if your not worried about looks ya but i think it would look rediculouse here are a couple of the best ones i have of the 36 iroks and the 37 boggers on 10 inch rims hope this helps

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 08:39 PM
boggers

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 09:13 PM
How deep is the tread on the Iroks as opposed to the Boggers?

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 09:14 PM
Prod. Code
Size
Ply Rating
Skid Depth
Tread Width
O.D.
C.S.
Rim
Max Infla.
Max Load

I-801
36x13.50-15LT
6
21/32
11.0
36.8
14.5
15x10
30
2810

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 09:15 PM
Eh????

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 09:16 PM
http://www.intercotire.com/site28.php
http://www.intercotire.com/site25.php

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 09:17 PM
look at the skid depth

mattz
08-28-2006, 09:23 PM
wal mart has wicked mud tires too they just came out with bigger sizes and they are super cheap!

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 09:25 PM
I see...so the Iroks have less tread than Boggers.

jakerngr
08-28-2006, 09:26 PM
yup

G-rizzle Swank
08-28-2006, 09:35 PM
Im kinda partial to boggers, for mud and trails but there not he greatest pavement tire. Most guys dont daily drive boggers anyway....[cheers]


i do, and if you have a lighter vehical the boggers dont wear as fast as people seem to think

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 09:38 PM
Okay, I'm pretty much set on running Boggers on the rear. So that leaves the front...it's welded, and it's a D44, so I'm not going to run Boggers on it. For the front, Swampers or Iroks?

MetalMan
08-28-2006, 09:38 PM
BTW it's an old fullsize Cherokee with a gutted interior...not light, not heavy.

230
08-28-2006, 09:56 PM
swampers up front.

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 01:56 AM
I see...so the Iroks have less tread than Boggers.

but they are priced much cheaper than boggers to compensate

StinkFinger
08-29-2006, 12:15 PM
swamper sx's

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 12:20 PM
SX's are nice. TSL with a tougher sidewall basically.

They still need to be cut up in my opinion though... I need to find a tire groover to do mine

StinkFinger
08-29-2006, 12:30 PM
how bout the grinder and the chain saw disk

or tiers plus in mission 30 a tier to have em cut

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 12:32 PM
I don't want to make plain stright cuts though so grinder, chainsaw, etc won't work too well. and I'm cheap so I'm not gonna shell out $120 for someone else to do it.

Pudge
08-29-2006, 12:36 PM
I may know someone who May have access to a groover[32]

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 12:40 PM
I wonder who that might be? :confused:


hook me up Paul.[36]

Pudge
08-29-2006, 12:50 PM
let me know when you need it done, and I'll see if I can line it up. Need a week or so notice, but "shouldn't" be a problem. Bring beer (cold, not like that stinkin' zuki drivin' can2 guy, lol)

UU
08-29-2006, 12:55 PM
Okay, I'm pretty much set on running Boggers on the rear. So that leaves the front...it's welded, and it's a D44, so I'm not going to run Boggers on it. For the front, Swampers or Iroks?


Why ?

I have a d44 w/ 38.5 boggers no prob.

And I'm not easy on it.

StinkFinger
08-29-2006, 12:59 PM
yes you are
my vagina would throw down more of a beating than you could

UU
08-29-2006, 01:00 PM
You have a vagina [wako]

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 01:03 PM
let me know when you need it done, and I'll see if I can line it up. Need a week or so notice, but "shouldn't" be a problem. Bring beer (cold, not like that stinkin' zuki drivin' can2 guy, lol)


can I borrow it? or would I need to bring them in? I'm not too sure how I want to cut them yet, so I wouldn't mind borrowing it for a weekend if possible..? I'll buy you guys some new blades if needed and/or COLD beer[cheers]

StinkFinger
08-29-2006, 01:09 PM
me to me to

Pudge
08-29-2006, 01:12 PM
I can't lend it out, as it is not mine and is a shops. I can prolly access it for a Sat night, Sunday. Will need it back on Monday, they use it alot for grooving Semi truck tires, when fags are too cheap to buy new tires. The blade you need (which I can supply but will need to replace) will $1 or more per blade. On Grants brand new boggers, I only used one blade, I have at times (used tires) used 2-3 blades per tires, although that is pretty rare, and tire would be kinda stone drilled. Let me know
Paul

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 01:27 PM
that would be cool. Sometime after the long weekend maybe?

Pudge
08-29-2006, 01:31 PM
sounds gooder, just send me a reminder a week or so ahead (I'm a littel bad a remembering things, lol)

StinkFinger
08-29-2006, 01:36 PM
just a reminder i would like to use the groover in two to three weeks

Big_Ern
08-29-2006, 02:16 PM
[15]



will do. Thanks Paul[cheers]

Pudge
08-29-2006, 02:23 PM
just a reminder i would like to use the groover in two to three weeks


then remind me 1 or 2 weeks an dennnn[cheers]

MetalMan
08-29-2006, 07:57 PM
Hmmm maybe run Swampers up front just to be safe? What's the deal with "cutting" them anyways? What's the point? How's it done?

stuckle
08-29-2006, 08:38 PM
iroks

im getting the 39.5

ill let you know how they work

UU
08-29-2006, 08:52 PM
I may know someone who May have access to a groover[32]


Dids someone say that might have access to a groover [f]

Ginger Snaps
08-29-2006, 09:03 PM
Hmmm maybe run Swampers up front just to be safe? What's the deal with "cutting" them anyways? What's the point? How's it done?

Never done it but my old swampers where grooved it helps them from flat spotting as bad and belive better grip on rocks and snow thats what i was told dont know if that is correct:confused:

stuckle
08-29-2006, 09:10 PM
if so many people wana use a groove why the hell dont we split one?

what are they? 300 bucks max?

thats 30 bucks a pop is 10 people go in... and i betcha there no where near 300 bucks

Ginger Snaps
08-29-2006, 09:16 PM
think there was one for sale on BCgayx4 for like 30-50 bucks not sure

Lucas
08-29-2006, 10:20 PM
ive had both 40" boggers and swampers

swampers are better..................................groved tsls would be my choice

MetalMan
08-29-2006, 10:23 PM
Lucas, you ran them in all conditions?

waggie
08-29-2006, 10:59 PM
iroks

im getting the 39.5

ill let you know how they work


Are you getting those used from Andy? just querious... my shop forman just sold his 39.5's off of his dodge p/u cause he doesnt want to cut fenders on a ram charger he's buildin.

Toy_Runner
08-29-2006, 11:02 PM
does anybody have pictures of there groved tires, i want to see the pattren you went with??

stuckle
08-29-2006, 11:04 PM
Are you getting those used from Andy? just querious... my shop forman just sold his 39.5's off of his dodge p/u cause he doesnt want to cut fenders on a ram charger he's buildin.


nope..

andy who?


"my andy" has 44's... and there not used[15]

trevyota
08-29-2006, 11:10 PM
some one should buy that truck off him...

all he need's is driveshaft's right?

THE BIG MUDDER
08-30-2006, 11:05 PM
BOGGERS ARE THE ONLY WAY[redneck]

stuckle
08-30-2006, 11:06 PM
some one should buy that truck off him...

all he need's is driveshaft's right?

needs bushings for his rear leafs and then shafts

needs coin to finish it tho... and my time...


probably a couple weeks if we get into it again[cheers]