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cancerjeep
04-26-2006, 02:35 PM
need some help
i have a 81 wagoneer with rebuild amc 360/4 speed dana44 up front and amc20 in rear.
may have a line on some newer ford(superduty) 1ton axles.. dana50 front and dana 60 rear with disc's.. just wondering if this option will work or if i should go another way(dodge ect..) to make things easer..
any help please
thanks
oh also if i do this i will have both 1/2 tone axles for sale..locked front and rear 4:10's..

In The Zone
04-26-2006, 03:02 PM
stay away from the d50

unless i am mistaken it was only a limited use in the f250

parts could be hard to find

i could be wrong though

i believe the outers and stub shafts are different..

typically 8bolt x6.5 centres

Nutbar
04-26-2006, 04:34 PM
The ford diffs will be the correct side frt diff for your wag, but I haven't heard to much good about the Dana 50s either the other problem you will have is the wags even though are considered a full size the diffs are a fair bit narrower than ford stuff you are lookin at so you will end up with the tires sticking out a ways from the body.

J20
04-26-2006, 04:35 PM
i think the easiest way to go would be a d44 and a d60 out of a j20 but im sure someone else will have a different opion.............i have a j20 with this set up in it if you want to look at it pm me im in nvan also..............i think we have waved at each other in passing before [cheers]

Brian

Nutbar
04-26-2006, 04:38 PM
For his wag he would need to stay with 1980 and newer J truck diffs for the frt axle, 79 and prior are the wrong side drive and the J truck and 2 door Cherokee diffs are wider again than the Wagoneer diffs.

cancerjeep
04-26-2006, 04:50 PM
yah j20 diff about 5" wider, over all, then what i got..but thats fine with me. i wantted wider diffs as i have flares, and also my diffs are to close to the inner fenders for my liking now.. but finding a j20 with a 60 will be hard...
that why i was wondering about the ford...plus i know the dana50 is high pinion witch may help.. thanks sofar.. im still trying to deside..

ScaryCanary
04-26-2006, 06:02 PM
just put a 3/4 ton GMC axle in place of an AMC20 on my '80 Cherokee. I was surprised at such a weak rear end on a Jeep ! Little modification to make it work but I'm locking 'er up at the same time.You've definately got options

cancerjeep
04-26-2006, 11:53 PM
so ScaryCanary what are you going to do up front??

shockless
04-27-2006, 12:03 AM
if they are newer ford it wouldnt be a dana 60 would it? wouldnt it be a 70 or a 10.25?

cancerjeep
04-27-2006, 09:59 AM
opps my mistake.. yes your right the rear is the 10.25.....

ScaryCanary
04-27-2006, 06:43 PM
with a dana44 up front, I decided to go posi on the front instead of locking but the gearing is up to 4.88:1 now. Went with a 4:1 low in the transfer case as well. My new torque converter should hold up much better than the stock one I replaced.