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m j
04-17-2006, 09:51 PM
broke 4 front axles since June mostly the result of the caps spitting out.
ordered a set of Yukon 4340 replacements from CompleteOffroad on eBay.
paid $349usd plus shipping USPS $36usd.
highly recommend dealing with them.
had to order in the full circle snap rings at Lordco as they do not keep up on their stock. 1-3/16th

fro some reason I had a hard time finding purple spray paint to give these things a coat of Yukons company colour.
everywhere I went said they didn't have it.
a friend found it at Rona, where they told me I was SOL.
for some reason my camera doesn't like the colour, flash on it come up blue, with the flash off kinda pinkish.

In The Zone
04-17-2006, 10:17 PM
Nice i feel i will be doing the same eventually

Big_Ern
04-17-2006, 10:34 PM
bling bling. pimpin paint job[9]



and Dan, you better get some chromo axles for any chance of holding up to those 44s:eek:

barracuda
04-17-2006, 10:40 PM
I guess now you would be approaching the strength of factory a dana 60 . Are you locked in the front ? I think that would be the next logical step for mine if i start breaking the axles

Nutbar
04-18-2006, 12:59 AM
you bought the axles but you didn't buy the Yukon U joints?[16] hope you don't break the Joint cross next I did several with the 44 in my cj with the good spicer joints and still ruined the axles

m j
04-18-2006, 07:42 AM
Yukons and CTMs are not recommended for a truck that uses 4x4 a lot, like snow driving.
Longfield specifically stated they will gall and overheat
that leaves Ox which I havent had a chance to ask. that is a bit of a lie, if I had thought I was going to run a d44 I could have asked the rep at SEMA.
anyway I dont know if the larger surface area on the Ox style will handle daily type driving without overheating.

hopefully these will prevent the yoke distortion that was causing me grief. been so long since I played with these little axles.

In The Zone
04-18-2006, 09:38 AM
they have a 35 spline upgrade for d44's as well CTM makes em

same specs as d60 axles 35 spline 1.5 "
www.ctmracing.com

Nutbar
04-18-2006, 12:04 PM
you are right about not being able to "drive" with the yukons or ctms they have no bearings in them they have bushings instead so they are not meant for continuous duty.

just wanted to let you know that the spicer joints still aren't real strong for severe duty. There is a couple of companys that take the spicer joints and re treat them to make them stronger just can't remember who they are now I saw this in a Petersons article on U joints.

In The Zone
04-18-2006, 01:45 PM
un less u have driveflanges could one not still run ox ,ctms or the yukon joints ?

just unlock the hubs?


or do u have full time transfer case?

BeerBaron666
04-18-2006, 02:02 PM
I think he meant he drives in 4w for long periods of time

In The Zone
04-18-2006, 02:18 PM
DOH!

m j
04-18-2006, 06:19 PM
it was Longfield I think was doing that cryo treatment, but Spicer threatened to sue him so he made his own super joints.
same problem, when I asked him on P4x4 he specifically stated his joints will not work for me.
this is for my daily driver truck, my hardcore stuff runs d60.

m j
05-27-2006, 01:41 PM
installed

crimsen
05-27-2006, 02:07 PM
so did you end up getting the paint at rona or where was it? i am gonna desperatly need purple spray paint soon to go with my truck so really curious.

jeeper
05-27-2006, 02:24 PM
Nice lookin axles ! Looks like you got the paint dirty installing them :)

m j
05-27-2006, 03:33 PM
paint was found at Rona.

they have been installed for awhile now, I just forgot to add to the post.

for some reason I still have no confidence in the front end.
need to go out and try to break it somewhere close with a rescue plan ready.

shockless
05-28-2006, 10:16 PM
do they have any type of waranty or? looks kinda neat for purple

m j
05-28-2006, 11:15 PM
I think they have some kind of warrantee, but like any other axle warrantee it only counts if it breaks in a spot that they don't break in :)

purple is the new red.

crimsen
05-28-2006, 11:50 PM
fuck, everyone wants to be just like me .........

















can ya blame em tho ?

m j
07-19-2007, 06:58 PM
I finally broke.
haven't pulled it apart yet but it looks like the PS ujoint no longer has needles in it.
I can see the trunnion through the missing chunks of ujoint cap.
I dug through my spare and found a 5-760x so I should be able to tear into it this weekend.
any luck and I caught it before the shafts are fawked....maybe

m j
07-21-2007, 05:09 PM
so what did I do to cause this?

http://www3.telus.net/public/a7a83794/4x4/fullcirclecclip44/d44ujoint003.jpg

http://www3.telus.net/public/a7a83794/4x4/fullcirclecclip44/d44ujoint004.jpg

jeeper
07-21-2007, 06:14 PM
major meltdown !

Cooked for sure !

Troy
07-21-2007, 06:33 PM
so what did I do to cause this?


gaver too much shit:dontknow:

at least the purple paint held up:cool:

jakerngr
07-21-2007, 07:08 PM
they got to hot...did you run them on the street or long periods of time with the hubs locked.are the greasable??? if so there is not nearly enough residual grease around the caps

m j
07-21-2007, 08:33 PM
I only unlock the hubs for trips longer then 1/2hr or so (if I remember to) but these are the same joints that np203 trucks and a lot of Heeps etc run that do not have lockout hubs

you cannot get greaseables for a d44 unless you get the old school ones (trust me I would be running them if they were available) and the instructions specifically state you cannot add any grease other then what spicer put in them at the factory

this is the longest a d44 u joint has been in my truck, what is that a year and 3 months?

oh and those pics are after a bath in the solvent tank

http://www3.telus.net/public/a7a83794/4x4/fullcirclecclip44/d44ujoint002.jpg

barracuda
07-21-2007, 08:39 PM
were you in stave mud? that stuff seems to find it way into everything

m j
07-21-2007, 09:11 PM
never saw mud in this truck, no power

jakerngr
07-21-2007, 09:34 PM
time for some of these 4 grease fitting each...havent had a problem yet and i beat the shit out of these things.

m j
07-21-2007, 09:37 PM
how long have you run them?

m j
07-21-2007, 09:41 PM
I guess to really diagnose I need to get a pic of the ujoint body which was surprisingly in good shape

jakerngr
07-21-2007, 09:42 PM
since december of this year.

jakerngr
07-21-2007, 09:44 PM
I grease them after every run just to be safe. they are still as tight as they where when i put them in. I would blow a x joint or shaft every time i went out in my old ranger with the scout 44 in it.

m j
07-22-2007, 02:27 PM
spent more hard earned $$
order new spindles and AlloyUSA joints from Broncograveyard
new 5-760x joints and wheel bearings kits from Completeoffroad

my spindles and bearings are fawked. must have overtightened them.
never done that before usually I am on the loose side.

m j
07-24-2007, 06:15 PM
now I am pissed

http://www3.telus.net/public/a7a83794/4x4/fullcirclecclip44/d44detroit.jpg

Troy
07-25-2007, 12:50 AM
too much pinion depth

thats nothing, you should see my sterling carrier its grinded to absolute shit

m j
07-25-2007, 06:56 AM
COmplete said they wont ship USPS anymore
so i whined to Broncograveyard and he shipped USPS for me
the AlloyUSA joints are 'backordered' so I dropped them

Apathy
07-25-2007, 09:05 AM
your throwing money away dude, do not get the alloy axles and standard u-joints unless you buy them as a complete kit.

Get the Yukon super joints, Longfields, or CTM's. But for the price i'd go longs. for the warranty i'd go yukon.

Looks like those u-joints wer binding. Possibly over steering?

m j
07-25-2007, 07:49 PM
CTM superjoints OX and all the others are junk IMO
if you cannot treat them like a normal ujoint they are useless
if this was a buggy that rode around on a trailer then I would consider the aftermarket stuff
but for a real truck that does everything you can't run the bling
the galling on Halo's thread on pirate from his couple of month old superjoints is pretty impressive

a year and 3 months is amazing longevity for ujoints in a d44 IMO and to go without destroying the shafts is even better