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Milkman
03-06-2006, 08:55 PM
Had a great time. Thx's for showing me your backyard Jim+ helping out with the nfg brakes Jim.


57401 what is wrong with this?

57412 Ahh Beer

57423 So So mud

57434

57445

57456

57467 The View on the way

57478

57489 Riding Bitch seat

574910 A logging area that was tight to get into but worth it for the mud.

575011 The mud (almost got stuck) Was gooey

575112

575213 Need lift!

575314 Jim Stuck!


575516 Tire off ground (rear)

575617

575718

575819 The 1 match fire to get it going.


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576122

576223

230
03-06-2006, 08:57 PM
is that herling?

Hello Kitty
03-06-2006, 09:03 PM
is that herling?


nope pegleg island.



I know that mud/watery hole.


[cheers]

Murd0c
03-06-2006, 09:08 PM
Good pics


But honestly thats not right having that collar on your dog and I do believe thats considered animal abuse, it's not right have those 2" spikes going into it's neck. It's ment for training not to be on 24/7 or every time your dogs outside[16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16]

fourplay
03-06-2006, 09:09 PM
Nope, midway between Jessperson and gill. We did a river crossing to get to Gill, that I don't think I want to try again till I get a lift kit, lmao... Great pics Kris!! What that pic didn't show was that i was wedged, (back right wheel was bout 3 feet off the ground) was a quad trail, now its a jeep trail, only wrinkled the fender, lmao.. Lil push from behind and i was down. If ya get lost in that trail, just follow the blue paint on all the trees I went between. Great day Kris! [36] [cheers] [stoned] [29]

[cheers]

Milkman
03-06-2006, 09:11 PM
Good pics


But honestly thats not right having that collar on your dog and I do believe thats considered animal abuse, it's not right have those 2" spikes going into it's neck. It's ment for training not to be on 24/7 or every time your dogs outside[16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16] [16]


Why don't you go fuck yourself!

mini
03-06-2006, 09:11 PM
nice pics

Logan
03-06-2006, 09:19 PM
Wicked pictures.. and as for need lift... yeah, understatment haha. Looks like you had a blast, thats killer.

Mukaluk
03-06-2006, 09:21 PM
Chris, you seem like a nice decent guy but seriously, you need to take the collar off. You should know that those collars do more harm then good. My last dog (before we got her) at one point had to wear that collar more than the recommended 20 min time it should be on. Her neck was aweful, beaten to a pulp and her spirit was broken. Your dog seems to be an awesome dog who loves you. Do you really want to do it to him/her? Do they really deserve it? If you need to train her, take her to the professionals, that's what they're there for... [16]

Be a real human being and take the damn thing of... or I will...

Milkman
03-06-2006, 09:21 PM
Thank you for your concern about the collar, however it is my Dog + I know what is best for his training needs. If you had a dog or have done any resarch on dog collars you would know that the prong collar is one of the best collars out there.


A Study on Prong Collars was done in Germany:


100 dogs were in the study. 50 used choke and 50 used prong.
The dogs were studied for their entire lives. As dogs died, autopsies were performed.
Of the 50 which had chokes, 48 had injuries to the neck, trachea, or back. 2 of those were determined to be genetic. The other 46 were caused by trauma.
Of the 50 which had prongs, 2 had injuries in the neck area, 1 was determined to be genetic. 1 was caused by trauma.The numbers seem to speak for themselves.
(Information about above study taken from an Anne Marie Silverton Seminar)

Murd0c
03-06-2006, 09:22 PM
Why don't you go fuck yourself!


Say what why are you being a jerk, I just don't think it's right that your dog little alone any animal gets abused like that. I wasn't rude what so ever I was trying to say it nicely and you go ahead being immature like that. I can't express how I feel right now cause this is a open fourm and we have to tone things down

This is what I have to say[33] [33] [33] [33] [33] [33] and everyone that knows we can sure as hell know what I'm thinking right now.

Mukaluk
03-06-2006, 09:26 PM
Notice how it says GERMANY!!!!!!

They use extreme training methods in Europe. I should know, my entire family lives there and I had to explain to my uncle who had a Rotweiler to not use the collar. The dog turned out to be a way better dog once he was off the collar...

And please, don't send me false numbers. I've seen endless videos and reports, those numbers aren't right buddy...

And please don't school me on dog/animal behaviour and training...

And sorry buddy it still stands... take it off or I will...

fourplay
03-06-2006, 09:34 PM
While I don't like those collars, you weren't there. His dog is a good dog, I Have 3 dogs, a rotti, a golden retriever and a gold lab cross. That collar was not on it's neck 24/7. It was only on while out there, to keep it from fuckin off after other dogs, and there coyotes out there as well. I alos did research on them as I used one on my old rotti guard dog (that dog was a prick, but nobody stole shit from me back then). You ever hear a dog choking and hackin while yankin on a choke, some dogs just keep yankin, while with the pinch collar, they yank once and stop. The dog will calm down, as it's still young and he won't need it anymore. Kris is a good man and he wouldn't do it to be mean or cause it pain. It's simply a proven and tested method of training, of which not everyone agrees. But it is his dog. Nuff said..

[cheers] Jim

Milkman
03-06-2006, 09:41 PM
Quite frankly I do not care what your option is! Who I do listen to is professional breeders. Our breeder (who has an outstanding reputation)completely recommends the prong collar for training situations on our dog, As do many other experts including the 4 that I met on Sat at A 44 store pet store chain. (as well as countless others I have talked to)


As far as my dog is concerned it is my Dog + as far as the training or collars or anything else goes we will use what is best for him.

cblock
03-06-2006, 09:44 PM
awsome pics man.

and that dog has to be the happiest boy ive seen in a long time.
cant be much better then headin out on a muddy trail with your best bud beside ya. lol.

Honky
03-06-2006, 09:44 PM
I have no idea about the collar or training but I do know that is a really bad behaved dog. A real hand full for the owner and people around it.

Murd0c
03-06-2006, 09:45 PM
So how is your dog sitting in your passanger seat training?????????

So all the other dog lovers on here and around we know don't use this torture collar????? if it was used for training(even tho I don't think it's right)use it well your training your dog at home or at a course for the 1hr you train your dog not to be kept on all the time, sitting in the passangner seat of your jeep.

If you can't control your dog taking it out camping in the bush you shouldn't take him out until he is fully trained to obey your commands with about being scared of getting hurt.

England
03-06-2006, 09:50 PM
ok ok ....holy crap keep THAT to pms ...personal opions and that [cheers]

great pics mate looks like a great time !

Big_Ern
03-06-2006, 09:52 PM
I have no idea about the collar or training but I do know that is a really bad behaved dog. A real hand full for the owner and people around it.

[stupid]

Needs to go to doggy school.



look like afun day on the river tho

England
03-06-2006, 10:19 PM
I have no idea about the collar or training but I do know that is a really bad behaved dog. A real hand full for the owner and people around it.
[15] [15] hey Walt heres anouther for you to pet !



ust trying to keep the humor level up lads [f]

jeeper
03-06-2006, 10:22 PM
Hey guys

PMs etc work wonders !

If someones trying to help please startin that forum!

Personal insults dont help either !

Open web boards are not the best place for this stuff !

Thanks --Bruce

nykoma
03-07-2006, 06:52 AM
great pictures there bro[cheers]

shockless
03-07-2006, 07:41 AM
great pics man, and why does everything have to be a drama show around here all of a sudden...? i dont even know what the collar does and you seem like you care for your dog so it doesnt bother me

chev-ota
03-07-2006, 08:33 AM
sweet looking pics there dude [36] looks fun

digger
03-07-2006, 03:35 PM
where can i get one of those collars?....


























the old ladys a real handfull

England
03-07-2006, 03:44 PM
where can i get one of those collars?....


























the old ladys a real handfull


[stupid]

G-rizzle Swank
03-07-2006, 03:51 PM
get the one with the spikes man and weld it on there doos so she cant take it off

Taxidermy
03-07-2006, 04:25 PM
cool [41] [41] [41]

Mukaluk
03-07-2006, 05:31 PM
great pics man, and why does everything have to be a drama show around here all of a sudden...? i dont even know what the collar does and you seem like you care for your dog so it doesnt bother me

We're not trying to make it a drama... sorry if we are. I just can't sit back and stay quiet when I see something like that. I love animals and I just hope everyone can respect that and understand... that's all...

epic3
03-07-2006, 05:42 PM
suck it up buttercup[f] and get a room[d]

Mukaluk
03-07-2006, 07:31 PM
Hey! That's my line!!!

Aaawww man! ;)

epic3
03-07-2006, 07:35 PM
gotcha

Mukaluk
03-07-2006, 07:54 PM
Damn! Well it was good while it lasted... I'd like to thank... :D

epic3
03-07-2006, 08:01 PM
I used to tell Janiece that all the time

Mukaluk
03-07-2006, 10:49 PM
Dude, too much information... [16]