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trevyota
12-23-2005, 08:32 PM
for my 2nd gen runner

i wana drive daily on 35's.

is the stock 4:10's>

what do i need to go too............

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Toy_Runner
12-23-2005, 08:38 PM
i would say 4:88, or 5:29 for a 4 cyl

1985 toy 4x4, 3 in lift with 33 pro comp mudders
Craig

trevyota
12-23-2005, 09:29 PM
aaron? i know you got a answer...

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Murd0c
12-23-2005, 11:25 PM
on 35's u have ifs, hmmmm I say 529's best bet with a detroit in the rear!!!

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

trevyota
12-24-2005, 06:52 AM
i dont know ohw long the ifs is gunna last.

i'm hoping to have it out of there by may.

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stuckle
12-24-2005, 08:26 AM
"we" are hoping to have it out by may;)

id say with ur 6 cyl you could run 456 or 488's.....any higher and no freeway for you...and you want it to beable to....

trevyota
12-24-2005, 12:27 PM
488's ehh

i have to do body work again now too


read the FUCK christmas post

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BAM
12-24-2005, 03:35 PM
4:88 id say, if shes a DD

1990 Toy P/U, Lifted, 35" Boggers.
I've got a Toyota Fetish.

Rebulon Refurbulater
12-24-2005, 07:08 PM
is it standard with overdrive?
if so i would suggest 5.29.........still okay d.d but way better off road
only prob is the pinion head gets pretty small with 5.29

Big_Ern
12-24-2005, 09:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by stuckle

"we" are hoping to have it out by may;)

id say with ur 6 cyl you could run 456 or 488's.....any higher and no freeway for you...and you want it to beable to....


You gotta remember this is a toy thats stock with 4.10's, not some chevy junk with 3.something gears. 4.10's put you nicely in the power band for the freeway and do 3grand at about 110-120, so 4.56 isn't enough for 35s



I would go 4.88s for 35's especially since you got the V6. Over 36" and its a tossup between 4.88 and 5.29. A lot of people say the 5.29s are a little weak becuase of the smaller pinion, but lots of guys with built rigs still run them (Owen, Daryl, etc)

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TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
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trevyota
12-25-2005, 08:05 AM
thank's for the GREAT info.


i dont think i'll go higher then 35's.. any time imaginable.

so 488's it is.

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Rebulon Refurbulater
12-25-2005, 09:01 AM
yeah again it all depends on the loose nut behimd the wheel.........ive changed lotsa broken 5.29's....chipped and broken teeth on the ring and pinion.....usually because of a shock load......dumpinm the clutch on hard surface or hoppin a lot on a rock face..........and not so much for any other toy ratio.........

Big_Ern
12-25-2005, 10:50 AM
also depends on who sets up the gears.

Get Daryl to do it. He knows exactly how to set up the Toy gears so they are nice and strong. Its actually a lot tighter than factory spec, but it stay a lot more solid that way since there's no slop.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-25-2005, 09:07 PM
what slop are you talking about, in the pinion?

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Big_Ern
12-25-2005, 10:04 PM
Everything I think, he sets them up nice and tight. Front moreso than the back since it never see's high speeds, but I think he sets the back up fairly tight too.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

Rebulon Refurbulater
12-26-2005, 03:48 PM
big urn has evidently never set up a set of gears....may never have even tested backlash...if he knows what that is........
you set gears to the manufacturures spec......aftermarket of otherwise........it is either within the spec or not....with correct pattern or not.....if not its wrong.......period.......ever even seen a correct pattern urn?

Big_Ern
12-26-2005, 08:54 PM
you're right, I never have setup gears myself, because I don't have the experience. So I take them to someone who knows what they are doing. Not some hack who works at no limit[16]


The factory did not design their shit to be beat on like some of us do offroad. Factory specs are good for factory stock trucks. But when you start modifying them you need to vary from spec in some cases to make it stronger and more suited to offroad driving.


but knowing the pavement princesses you guys produced, none of them every saw anything more than a ramp anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

Rebulon Refurbulater
12-27-2005, 09:57 AM
there goes urn with his assumptions again.
Who said i do or ever did work at....no limit?
Ive heard the name.....thats all
Pavement princess or off road is up to the customer regardless of the build.
R U a tech ern?....just askin cause it sounds like you only turn an occasional dangerous wrench.
face it anyone who does suspension work and sets up gears etc every working day and most personal days
is probly more qualified to critique (positve and constructive or otherwise) than a person that aquires most of his info from the net and makes third person comments.
Im just sayin........:)

Rebulon Refurbulater
12-27-2005, 09:59 AM
just thought id give the knife another twist....:)

ToyotaHEAD
01-07-2006, 12:07 PM
I am gonna have to agree with Rebulon Refurbulater on this on E. Backlash (that bit of play you feel in the pinion) is critical to the longevity of a gearset. Without that there would be very poor lubracation, and one super fuzzy, black, gooey drain plug. As for patterns... Like he said there is only one good pattern. There is no sorta ok. I have setup quite a few gearsets now. (of my own) and they all seem to be doing great. (knock on wood) And I attribute that to setting them up exactly as described. There was only one exception I differed on. I put a lil more preload on the side bearings. I was instructed that this would help keep the ring in good alignment under stressed conditions. (eg: wheel hop) If you do try this, just dont go gonzo on them, or you will prematurly wear out the side bearings.


As for the original topic... I have crunched the #'s on several different occations. But in summery if running a Toyota (V6-3.0L or 4cyl) 35's the best choice (strictly based on the #'s / economy) would be 488's. If you went ANY bigger than 35 best to move into the 529's.

As for the strength of the 529's in my personal opinion: a 4x4 isnt a f***'n camaro. If you drive your truck accordingly and not like a madman, ya wont break anything. I have web wheeled many sites as I am sure most of you have as well. Tooth contact this... pinion angle that... I am not dismissing any of this as BS cuz its not, I just think that ppl over analize the obvious. Just like them 6 bolt toy knuckle conversions. You can break anything if ya dont know what your doing. I am sure you get the point I am making. :confused:

fourxtoy
01-12-2006, 09:29 PM
if i put 529 in my yota will i still be able 2 go on the hiway
i have a EFI4banger with a big ass cam and bored over30
and a five speed
HELP?

ToyotaHEAD
01-12-2006, 11:46 PM
If your running 35-37" tires 529 are the ratio to have to keep your overall gear ratio as close to stock as possible. (488 as a bare minimum with this tire size.)

For example) If you put in 529's and then run a 31" tire you will notice you cant go as fast.