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trevyota
12-14-2005, 09:07 AM
hey if i put a set of 2 inch spacer's in the back of my runner

what else need's to be done to keep the correct geometry, new shock's?

and what size tire can i stuff with some cranked bar's and 2 inch soacer's in the rear?

33's?



91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 09:19 AM
a big t-bar crank will make it ride like ass and flex even worse than it does already. You'll also go through CV's pretty quick, especially if you don't have manual hubs because they will be turning all the time, even if you're only in 2wd.

But ya, you will be able to fit 33's. A skinny 33 with the right backspacing fits stock with just a tiny bit of rubbing.

I got no idea what else would need to be done with the rear coils though, I've never dealt with them before...



a small body lift might be a better option -- I think it will wheel a little better than a t-bar crank, and coil spacers don't improve the suspenson, so you're not loosing anything there either. 2" bodylift would clear 33x12.5 and its probably cheaper than coil spacers since you won't have to change your shocks or anything else.

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TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
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trevyota
12-14-2005, 09:26 AM
so when r u gunna help me do it.... we should do dave's at the same time ehh.

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Murd0c
12-14-2005, 09:31 AM
get a 3" body lift then you can fit 33's, other then that get new shocks all around if you don't want to lift it.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 09:33 AM
is yours a 5spd? (a lot easier to do than auto)

Get a 2" Performance Accessories kit through Mike at NSOR. Thats what I used on my 4runner. It came with all the brackets etc to relocated the rad and front bumper etc. I think it was less than $150. Easy to install in a day with lots of beer breaks

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TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

redman
12-14-2005, 10:27 AM
Do not crank the otrsion bars, i did that in my 88 and it cost me lots in parts, I eventually wnet with a body/ suspension lift.
Daystar makes two spacers that fit on top of the rear coil they come in 1.5 inch and 2.5 inch heights, they are $100 and & 150 fits right on top of the rear spring.

My buddy has a 92 4runner he has a Trailmaster 3 inch body lift cost hom just over $ 100 at lordco with my discount. he runs 33x12.50 MTR's lots of clearence and no rub issues.







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Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 10:46 AM
also I just remembered. If you want to avoid a body lift you can get the coild spacers for the back, and 1-1/2" balljoint spacers for the front.

Only place I know where you can get the is from Roger at 4Crawler. He does excellent work and is a great guy to deal with. http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BallJointSpacer.shtml

also:

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/BodyLiftKit.shtml

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/CoilSpringSpacer.shtml

Check out the rest of his site as well. There is a Ton of good info on it just about every mod you'll want to do and lots of checp fix-it tips[cheers]


I would recomend either a coil spacer kit (with panhard drop bracket) and ball joint spacer kit, or a body lift from him. It might cost a luittle bit more, but the quality and customer service is well worth it. Give him a call, he's and let him know what size tire you want to run and the kind of offroading you want to do and he'll recomend the right thing for you.


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Jeeps are like tampons....
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TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 10:53 AM
thank's guy's[cheers]

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Murd0c
12-14-2005, 10:56 AM
I have th trail master body lift, it's a body lift but still good enough for the price to fit 33's under my junk. I would say thats good enough for now until you know what you want to do with yout truck.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 11:11 AM
be careful with regular body lifts. Read the writeup on roger's page about the smaller body lift kits punching a hole right through the floor. The same thing happened to my old 4 runner with a PA body lift (basically the same as TrailDisaster's). one of the rear body lift block went right through the floor in the back. Doesn't help that toys are usually pretty rusty.

But I agree its still a good temp fix until you figure out what you want to do with it. I'd only go 2" though as that is plenty of room to clear 33x12.5. Even 1" with minor fender massaging will clear. i had a 3" and I think the extra stress is part of the reason one of the blocks punched through the floor

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TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 11:56 AM
where would be the best place to get one from, mike at nsor?

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Murd0c
12-14-2005, 12:06 PM
I would go with a trail master body lift, you can go with 2" my I like the 3" for the extra 1" or play. I bought mine used for $75 havn't had a prob with it at all. Just shop around for the best deal I guess, your looking about a bit under $200 new for the body lift.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

trevyota
12-14-2005, 12:10 PM
aaron i dont understand what you mean by "smaller body lift's"

so you mean smaller diamater

or smaller height

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Murd0c
12-14-2005, 12:16 PM
smaller height, body lifts are bad cause they make your truck more top heavy. so you really don't want them in your truck but just for now it's good enough. I've never had a problem with mine but when I decide I want to lift my truck the body lifts comming out.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

Murd0c
12-14-2005, 12:18 PM
also body lifts on a toy frame are notthe smartest idea since the frames rust from the instide out and the bushings could go right through the box/floor frame etc. But fuck it what are the chances of that happening.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 12:19 PM
new should be less than $150. The one I had Performance Accessories 3" was $135 plus tax and that wasn't a very good deal because I didn't know anyone at the time.

Mike should be able to hoook you up at NSOR or if you know someone at lordco that works too



Reece, Was the Trail Disater a complete kit? did it include brackets to relocate the rad and front bumper, steering linkage extension, gas filler hose extension, etc? When I was ordering mine someone told me it didn't, so thats why I went with PA. They're both basically the same price anyway so it doesn't really matter. The PA kit also had a new press pin and 1/8" drill bit so you could extend the steering linkage properly, as well as some red loctite for all the mounting bolts. Not sure if trailmaster include this stuff either...? Just something to consider

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 12:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by trevyota

aaron i dont understand what you mean by "smaller body lift's"

so you mean smaller diamater

or smaller height

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)


smaller as in a smaller diameter puck, so it put more stress on the body and punches through the floor like what happened to my old 4runner

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 12:24 PM
makes sence, so who makes a wider one?


91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 12:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Murd0ug

smaller height, body lifts are bad cause they make your truck more top heavy. so you really don't want them in your truck but just for now it's good enough. I've never had a problem with mine but when I decide I want to lift my truck the body lifts comming out.

Only in BC you can wheel in the Snow, Sun & Rain in the same day!!


vbody lift is actually better than a suspension lift in that regard, since they only lift the body and not the entire frame and driver train. Thus an equivalent sized body lift vs suspension lift the body lift would have a lower center of gravity and be more stable.

The downside is it does nothing to improve your suspension, where-as a good suspension lift will give you a bit more flex.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 12:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by trevyota

makes sence, so who makes a wider one?


91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)


Roger Brown (the link I posted earlier). He uses a bit better materials in my opinion as well. It'll cost you a little more though since you'll have to get it shipped from the US and deal customs etc.

If I had of know about his ket when I did mine originally I would have gone with his stuff. Take a look at the links I posted and give him a call or email and let him know what you want to do with your truck. coil & ball-joint spacers might be an option too.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 12:51 PM
i like the spacer's in the rear.

i'm nto to sure about the balljoint ones up front though

has anyone else used these or a similar setup?

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 01:01 PM
I have read good things about them, and they're supposed to increase the flex as well. I think its a better option than a t-bar crank.
I don't know anyone thats run them though, so I dunno any first hand experience....


balljoint spacers are very common for the newer toys like the tundra and new taco, so i don't think they could be a bad thing if a lot of the major companies produce kits using them.


but between coil spacers and balljoint spacers you're probably looking at close to 400 by the time you get it shipped up here...I dunno.. its a tough choice because you don't really want to waste any money on the ifs crap, but it would be nice to improve it a little in the mean time

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 01:32 PM
yah


choices choices

right now i'm struggling with it trying to get the oilfilter off

i already pulled the skid off but i just cant turn it



fucking girly hands lol


any handy tip's

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)

Big_Ern
12-14-2005, 01:40 PM
did you get another 3.0L? There's no way to get your hands in there, I found I always needed a filter wrench on my old 4runner.

I got one of the band type ones and it seems to work well. I don't know if there would be enough room to get one of the socket type ones in there...


22re should be pretty easy to get to, but it still easier if you got the filter wrench.

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Jeeps are like tampons....
Every pussy needs one[f]

TeaBag: '80 Toy "4Runner" on 36" SXs with dual t-cases
Daily Driver: '83 RX-7
Old rig: '89 4Runner 'The Last Ride (http://www.funinbc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14144)'

trevyota
12-14-2005, 02:26 PM
yah i got another 3.slow

i got it eventually

but my knuckles are RAW

shit happens

i guess they didnt understnad the whole 3/4 turn past contact thing

but i got's a fram on there now, so it should be easier then that slippery lil dealership one

91 runner>SS<
(shitty and stock)