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Gus
08-15-2004, 03:31 PM
i got a quick question, Ive got a '93 F150 with a 302 mated to an E40D and a borg warner 1305 T-case, is it possible to mate an NV4500 to it. Ive got no problem running all the linkage, but what else might be invovled. Ive looked around and found a few adaptor plates for the 302 but not to the 1305. Any insight might be helpful, even if it is to stay ford (or automatic).

Squishy
08-15-2004, 05:11 PM
didnt they run the 1356 t case? all the ones i have seen use that t case i believe

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u2slow
08-15-2004, 06:57 PM
How about a ZF 5-spd from a FORD? [7] You'd have to get one from behind a 300, 302, or 351... the 460 & diesel one has the wrong bellhousing pattern.

Here's a kit:
http://broncograveyard.com/products/cat/18/96/21310

I think A/A makes a conversion bellhousing by itself.... makes more sense to me. Considering any Dodge or GM NV4500 already has a LH-drop t-case, why bother adapting the Ford t-case?

Gus
08-16-2004, 11:12 AM
Yeah, your right it is the 1356 t-case, my bad, had a little bit too much to drink and tried to write it, had a hell of a time. And the t-tase has my digital speedo and ABS sensor retrofitted to it, so I would like to try and keep it (unless you've got any other ideas).

u2slow
08-16-2004, 11:54 AM
I think the ZF 5-spd is way less hassle. Your t-case will bolt right on. No adapters. Could be done with all factory ford parts - no aftermarket/custom anything. [^]

phatmatt
08-16-2004, 02:00 PM
It also has a nice low first gear

Where was I?

Goatz
08-16-2004, 04:11 PM
and a nice 5th gear for over drive

u2slow
08-16-2004, 04:35 PM
Ratios for ZF are: 5.72 2.94 1.61 1.00 0.76

Most NV4500: 5.61 3.04 1.67 1.00 0.73

91-94 GM NV4500 *only*: 6.34 3.44 1.71 1.00 0.73

Gus
08-19-2004, 05:11 PM
Okay, but I need to know how durable they are. I've been known to be a bit hard on my rig and need to know if it will stand up to the abuse I can put it through.

u2slow
08-19-2004, 08:32 PM
There's two models of the ZF. The S5-42 ('88-95) is rated for 420 lb-ft. The S5-47 ('96-98) is rated for 470 lb-ft. Its a heavy-duty trans - F250/F350 material - not like the Mazda/Toyo Kogyo 5-spd you typically see in the F150.

I think a lot of the popularity of the NV4500 is that it has a separate bellhousing. Very popular with the various adapter companies as a result.

Gus
08-20-2004, 05:21 PM
the S5-47, would I need the F-250/350 clutch linkage, master cylinder, and I hope to sweet zombie jesus no computer shite.

u2slow
08-23-2004, 05:36 AM
I can't think of any computer shite on the 4wd ZF. Although I wonder how your 302 EFI will behave when it doesn't have a computerized auto trans to chat with [?]

Now that I've got you on the ZF bandwagon... this comes up [32]
http://bb.bc4x4.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55227

Gus
08-23-2004, 07:32 AM
i dont believe the motor talks to the transmission, i think the transmission comunicates separtly with the speed sensors..unless neone knows ne better please tell me

Gus
08-23-2004, 07:42 PM
Damn it dude, you got me on the wagon, now this crap comes up. Well, I think I might just stay ford, I like the numbers for that ZF, and if it is as reliabe as most Fords are then it may be worth it, ahh-well might as well take a look.