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m j
06-27-2004, 08:51 AM
BOM 610132-1 = 1981 K30 4.10

was told the axles were matched set from 1978 K30 prior to deal
new story after emailing the BOM info to seller is they are out of a 1980 K30

the thin cover is caved in so I need to replace that, I like my current thick covers but the ClearGearz thing intrigues me...

the ujoints are a greaseable version so they are not the proper 332x
havent pulled the shafts yet to see if they are neck downs
I will be using the SPL55-4x greaseable Life Series again
unsure if I will go immediately to fat axles and keep neck downs as spares, cheap upgrade but budget and time restraints are a bitch

wow the tierod sure is low on the chev d60 compared to my dodge one

inside the housing is a coating
kinda like a black no slip
this is something I havent seen
anyone come across this?

Now would be a good time for people that have Detriots for sale for a 35spline d60 and 14ff to give me a call.

Also have to lengthen my crossover draglink so if you have the 7/8"-18 taps I need some tube threaded ASAP
if no one has these I am buying them

anyone need a steering lift block, stock steering arm, open 4.10 d60 carrier, I am sure the list of cast aways will grow?

dentedup
06-27-2004, 03:57 PM
jp_baron@telus.net, I've had mine drilled and tapped at his shop for $10 a side for the 7/8 thread

1_ton_k5
06-27-2004, 04:45 PM
Who's cross-over junk are you using Mike? Anyone local make good cross-over stuff for the d60? I'd prefer to keep my business up here and as local as possible...although the stuff from Sky sure looks good.

ORD's stuff doesn't look bad and is compatible with the Dedenbear knuckles...but it's a bit pricey.

Rene

81K5,6.2,465,205,60,14,4.56,40's

m j
06-27-2004, 05:41 PM
make your own Rene.
I bought a Parts Mike drop pitman
had it shipped to Ant from SRC.com
Ant made me a steering arm for $100 or maybe it was $125 usd to match the pitman length
simply 1" plate with a pipe cap welded for the spring mount

I had Haney Iron Workers put a 20* twist into the arm to make my draglink ends happy (I dont have a torch)
I partly retapered for the DLE, the snap on reamer died part way through the pitman
I bought 40" of 1.25" x 0.219" tubing and had Breeze thread it for me and cut it to IIRC 30 or 31" long

everything ORD retails is extremely pricey, other then their doubler kit I wouldnt recommend anyone buy from them
it is like they are trying to emulate the ORU pricing strategy

thanks for the link dentedup, for $20 you cannot go wrong,

deeper into the d60, drivers side torn down...
- fat axle
- ujoint says 'USA' on one side and 'crni' on the other, greaseable, but of course rusted solid on one cross
- Spicer lock outs, damn these are cool, I wish I had these from the start, I wonder if someone could CNC these and sell them
they make the Warns look like papermache
- the spindle could stand to be replaced
- first time I have seen a store bought steering lift block, not impressed at all
why would you buy something with that much slop built into it, like 1/2"
the one that I had made at SWAT was very tight fitting, the spring spacer was a precision fit to the block
anyway if someone needs one here it sits make an offer, but I would bush the slop out of it with nylon or brass before I ran something like that
- the plastic upper bushing looks in great shape
- I still cant figure out why there is a rhinolining like coating on the inside of the housing and carrier, not on any machined surfaces or oversprayed on bolts etc very precisice application ???

m j
06-27-2004, 06:58 PM
the origonal ad

quote:60/14b combo
d60/14b combo out of 78 chev 1ton single wheel 410 gears good shape 1200 also t400/203 combo works good 300 I'm in Calgary but heading to Vernon in a week or so xxx xxxx name here



the reply to my email query

quote:I bought the truck for the T400/205 combo. The diff cover that I took off
was too count the gears and the fluid that came out was clean. Besides all
I reall yknow is that I pulled it out of AN 80 k-30. I bought the truck
with the intentions of my buddy bying the diffs, and he was a No-payer.

(Iam writing this Email for my boyfriend as he dictates to me over the
phone. So if I messed up any truck jargin I apoligize.)

I am happy with the products and the price but hate discrepancy

m j
06-30-2004, 03:22 PM
Hey Rene,
I just ordered a 20' stick of the DOM for doing the steering linkage.
I am going to make a tierod out of it this time as well.
I think I am going to get thte taps as well next week.

1_ton_k5
06-30-2004, 10:52 PM
Make two sets if you can. I need cross-over, and my tie-rod is a little bent anyways.

Are you going high-steer?

I'd like to go high steer, but I've heard with the diff moved forwards like mine the tie-rod and drag link will hit each other when it gets all twisty.

rene



81K5,6.2,465,205,60,14,4.56,40's

m j
07-01-2004, 04:27 AM
I need about 30" for the draglink, whats a tierod about 60"?
I think I will have a bit left over to play with :)

I wonder if you can use my old one as your linkage will not be as severely angled

1_ton_k5
07-01-2004, 08:55 AM
We should get together sometime soon...you still in the 'Wack?

Send me an email Mike.

Rene

81K5,6.2,465,205,60,14,4.56,40's

m j
07-01-2004, 10:44 AM
if you custom make the high steer arms you should be able to find a way to make them clear

dentedup
07-01-2004, 04:16 PM
I am having troubles with my high ster hitting the pitman arm with my diff pushed ahead. I might have it solved with a shorter and very little drop pitman arm, but havn't tested it yet. If you need some arms made ESL Machine shop did a great job on mine

m j
07-01-2004, 04:37 PM
so do you get any trouble from the spring loaded kingpin when you move the steering to the top of the knuckle?
I really hate how low the tie rod is with these chev knuckles

1_ton_k5
07-01-2004, 06:08 PM
I think for high steer the Dedenbear knuckles are the answer as far as strength. The 5th stud should do a ton for better clamping and resistance to rotation on the knuckle.

But then I'd be stuck with ORD's arms... <sigh>

Rene



81K5,6.2,465,205,60,14,4.56,40's

m j
07-01-2004, 06:29 PM
how many broken knuckles have you seen?

1_ton_k5
07-01-2004, 08:59 PM
None, however I have personally sheared the steering arm studs in Moab...so the 5th stud in the Dedenbear knuckles looks pretty good to me[f]

Rene

81K5,6.2,465,205,60,14,4.56,40's

m j
07-03-2004, 07:03 AM
were they torqued?
stock? aftermarket?
cant you drill a 5th hole in a design you have made? Dedenbears are a larger stud as well, is that more or even less available?

the laser shop cut my brake caliper mounts cheaply I think they could do 1"
you are low enough to use off the shelf stuff I guess

I am using 1/2"-20 grade 8 redi rod for my steering arm studs

I kept my arm and the stock arm in case I decide to go back to a front to back linkage

Who do 'we' like to buy our D60 rebuild stuff from?
in 92 I got almost everything through Rieder
PartsMike was good to deal with for my drop pitman
Randy's looks to sell offshore parts rather then real Spicer
drivetrain direct?

I have a list of parts I am going to be importing for the d60

- 2 spindles
- kingpin rebuild kits
- inner axle seals
- detroit and carrier install
- 2 wheel joints spl55-4x unless they have been superceded or discontinued
- 1410 yoke (got one for the 14ff from DPI for $87 + shipping from TO,ON = $117)


and then driveshafts, is there anyone local for these? Danco did my old ones
I would really like to try and do my own shafts
I think a pair of centers would get you pretty close
maybe get a shop to spin balance them afterwards
still need a decent parts supplier

I am going to cut and turn this axle myself when I link the front, meantime it is a 2wdr lifted truck. how embarrassing!

dentedup
07-03-2004, 08:34 AM
1410 complete used driveshafts are plentyfull at 99 truck parts, I was there a couple of months ago and was quoted $75
bearings and seals I've always got a lordco , if I ever need a comlete rebuild I'll get a complete kit next time, so let us know what you find out about them.

m j
07-03-2004, 08:39 AM
locally bearings and seals are best found at Kaman Bearing

m j
07-10-2004, 03:01 PM
Product Line Description Mfg. Part Number Quanity
Dana/Spicer Lower kingpin kit 706395X 2
Dana/Spicer kingpin spring 37300 2
Dana/Spicer kinpin retainer 620180 2
Dana/Spicer upper bushing 41886 2
Dana/Spicer kingpin 37302 2
Dana/Spicer spindle 70013 2
Dana/Spicer axle u joint SPL55-4X/5-733X 2
Dana/Spicer spindle seals 700014 2
Federal/Mogul outer wheel bearing set A38 2
Federal/Mogul Inner wheel bearing 387AS 2
Federal/Mogul Inner wheel race 382A 2
National Oil Seals Inner wheel bearing seal 415960 2
Federal/Mogul spindle bearing 620063 2

just under $800cdn plus shipping costs and taxes
ouch