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B
12-18-2015, 11:31 PM
just thought this could make for a interesting discussion:dontknow: nothing else going on but crickets ;)

2 peeps...
4wd.....
efficient.... well there goes the jeep vote :D

vancity to Argentina w many stops on the way ... lightly packed no trailers campers allowed what would be your go to ...

oh one of those peeps is hella big :D

i have my ideas but ill hold off till i hear yours [cheers]

4skin
12-18-2015, 11:49 PM
Because of where you are going I would think
A diesel landcruiser just because it's a vehicle they would be familure with
If you had issues

B
12-19-2015, 01:10 AM
ya 3 liter diesel helix n surfs not so much for 4runners n stuff nissans again hit n miss

gavman
12-19-2015, 01:21 AM
New Tacoma pick up will do the job, nice ride, super reliable, but a bit flashy going to third world countries though.
roof top tent in the box, kept just below the cab height for the wind resistance.
Nissans and toyotas are really supported down there, keep your driveline as stock as possible for ease of finding parts
The 3 litre diesels in the early to mid 90 toyota surfs would be another great choice....

4skin
12-19-2015, 02:40 AM
What is the fuel availability and quality like where you are going ?
Some modern fuel systems don't like dirty fuel at all and can cause major problems
Maybe try asking on some of the forums more geared to those types of trips B
I read a lot of cool info on a site called expedition portal
Think that was the name anyway

harvester_sorrow
12-19-2015, 03:01 AM
Ih8mud is a good one too.

Nissan and toyota are the big ones

B
12-19-2015, 09:51 AM
New Tacoma pick up will do the job, nice ride, super reliable, but a bit flashy going to third world countries though.
roof top tent in the box, kept just below the cab height for the wind resistance.
Nissans and toyotas are really supported down there, keep your driveline as stock as possible for ease of finding parts
The 3 litre diesels in the early to mid 90 toyota surfs would be another great choice....


haha on a strict leave on the side of the road budget danny :D [cheers]

4skin
12-19-2015, 12:49 PM
haha on a strict leave on the side of the road budget danny :D [cheers]

Well that budget pretty much takes you back to a jeep
Even a halfway decent Toyota would be double or more than a decent jeep
I was thinking something you could crash in the back of if you had to
And you would be comfortable driving it

B
12-19-2015, 02:34 PM
ya i really wanna stay w a gas pot because most of these country's have "gas stations" bottle's on the side of the rd for scooters no matter were you end up ... maybe a 93 -98 grand cherry big enough i can sleep in it when needed and store gear w small roof rack

honestly ive never found a toy product im comfortable in the seats are to close to the floor for my body type need oba a small winch possibly a 3500 quad winch 2" lift and 30 x 9.5 tire to keep fuel costs down the problem w them is all the electronics and impossible to find a standard trans in them maybe swap in a aw4 as thats one of most bullet proof auto trans out there

Trailjunkie
12-19-2015, 03:10 PM
Suzuki are in all those country's and fuel consumption rate is ridiculously good . space for gear would be tight but they are the go to for many of the third world so repairs and parts would be possible if needed .

4skin
12-19-2015, 03:15 PM
Suzuki are in all those country's and fuel consumption rate is ridiculously good . space for gear would be tight but they are the go to for many of the third world so repairs and parts would be possible if needed .

I think B actually wants something he fits in not puts on :D

Trailjunkie
12-19-2015, 03:20 PM
i drove my long body as a daily and a wheeler for almost ten years and i think a wheel bearing was all i had to replace in all that time you could take the whole sj apart with a Phillips screwdriver and a adjustable wrench.as far as room is concerned i fit fine . lol Sean and i wheeled in it together and hes like 6.5 and 375lbs and if we fit shoulder to shoulder that b's got no worries.

StinkFinger
12-19-2015, 05:05 PM
delica

StinkFinger
12-19-2015, 05:05 PM
or vw deisel

B
12-19-2015, 05:28 PM
i drove my long body as a daily and a wheeler for almost ten years and i think a wheel bearing was all i had to replace in all that time you could take the whole sj apart with a Phillips screwdriver and a adjustable wrench.as far as room is concerned i fit fine . lol Sean and i wheeled in it together and hes like 6.5 and 375lbs and if we fit shoulder to shoulder that b's got no worries.


had a sj410 remember put it on is a apt description but ive seen some cheap 4 door trackers and even grand vitara's

B
12-19-2015, 05:30 PM
delica

or vw deisel


dont know the first thing about the delica's other than there a weird looking unit asia's answer to the vdub bus :D

now a vanagon would be cool but peeps think there gold plated althougfh i havent looked at them in a long time [cheers]

harvester_sorrow
12-19-2015, 05:37 PM
i drove my long body as a daily and a wheeler for almost ten years and i think a wheel bearing was all i had to replace in all that time you could take the whole sj apart with a Phillips screwdriver and a adjustable wrench.as far as room is concerned i fit fine . lol Sean and i wheeled in it together and hes like 6.5 and 375lbs and if we fit shoulder to shoulder that b's got no worries.

I bet it was the drivers side....... :D

Trailjunkie
12-19-2015, 06:11 PM
jamie you ass . um yah well , ok yes it was . lol

4skin
12-19-2015, 07:18 PM
Yup they still think vw are made out of gold even rustier gold than toyotas lol
So is 4x4 a need or a want
What about a awd astro van be fairly comfortable a ride room for gear and still sleep in it and disposable

B
12-19-2015, 07:27 PM
Yup they still think vw are made out of gold even rustier gold than toyotas lol
So is 4x4 a need or a want
What about a awd astro van be fairly comfortable a ride room for gear and still sleep in it and disposable

off road ability to get down to the beaches is a must w a winch i could probs survive without 4wd ...

as a couple of diving fiends w our own tanks beach entrys are the cheapest plus the ocean is a great food source

but i hate those fucking vans nothing is accessible even for a simple tuneup .. and with the routes and time of years im looking id say 70% need 100% want :D

Cheese eyes
12-20-2015, 11:38 AM
1992 fzj 80 [36]

B
12-20-2015, 12:48 PM
1992 fzj 80 [36]

only 2 on Craigs are 13 k plus lol

B
12-20-2015, 12:57 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/5357911759.html

isuzu trooper ? seems like a decent start other than the electrical gremlins haha

4skin
12-20-2015, 01:25 PM
The trooper is one I thought of and that looks like a ok deal
Electrical issues though Eek but it being fairly well set up already
Makes it more tempting
you mentioned a grand vitara do you fit in those lol
It has been mention as a good overland type vehicle
Old man emu make a lift for them and would be cheap on fuel

Cheese eyes
12-20-2015, 01:49 PM
Lol dreamers..... search Bellingham ;) are you looking for ready to go or do some work ??


I would love to do overlanding ...... One day :)

I have been following "home on the highway" there journey has been [h]

Trailjunkie
12-20-2015, 02:20 PM
that guy on crawlin with the Isuzu trooper truggy thing probably knows all there is to know about them maybe shoot him a pm .

StinkFinger
12-20-2015, 02:29 PM
delicas area japanise 4x4 vanogan, go real basic and get a ford crew cab with the idi run it on veggie and used motor oil

Trailjunkie
12-20-2015, 02:30 PM
i still say suzuki . you could borrow owens. lol

B
12-20-2015, 05:49 PM
Lol dreamers..... search Bellingham ;) are you looking for ready to go or do some work ??


I would love to do overlanding ...... One day :)

I have been following "home on the highway" there journey has been [h]


kinda in the middle of the 2 mike mostly mechanically sound perfer not to get in rewires and engine swaps dont mind adding lift winch oba and such outfitting for the journey persay dont want to attract attn just wanna explore and live my dream [cheers]
http://www.texas4x4.org/gallery/albums/album82/pickle.sized.jpg

something like this would be way over kill but fun

http://www.isuzugeek.org/forumpics/trooper/new91/227.jpg

thats about right ... wheel base int size small lift hmmm

Honky
12-21-2015, 12:55 PM
How about a midsized pickup with a pop-up camper. Would that still attract too much attention?


http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/images/stories/nov_09/camper-popup.jpg


Toyota
http://www.pickupcampers.co.za/images/camper-eagle-parked.jpg

http://www.pickupcampers.co.za/images/camper-finch3.jpg

Trailjunkie
12-21-2015, 01:29 PM
very cool and just what you need


https://youtu.be/UgPPlJXvipM

Trailjunkie
12-21-2015, 01:32 PM
or this even

https://youtu.be/JOKIeaqtPzY

Honky
12-21-2015, 01:41 PM
lol like an milk tanker wont draw attention

B
12-21-2015, 08:38 PM
lmao ... you find those in my budget im down

B
12-21-2015, 08:39 PM
How about a midsized pickup with a pop-up camper. Would that still attract too much attention?


http://www.truckcampermagazine.com/images/stories/nov_09/camper-popup.jpg


Toyota
http://www.pickupcampers.co.za/images/camper-eagle-parked.jpg

http://www.pickupcampers.co.za/images/camper-finch3.jpg


12-25 k for those setup's easy ... think cheaaaaap

4skin
12-21-2015, 10:03 PM
The 60 series cruisers like you pictured is what I was thinking of
But from tailgate to end of rear seat folded down is only about 5.8
But wouldn't be hard to build a extension
Or like many do and a raised platform with storage underneath it

harvester_sorrow
12-21-2015, 11:19 PM
Fiddy and a ditch to pass out in :dontknow:

B
12-21-2015, 11:26 PM
got up close to a delica and a grand vitara today there both out to small for sure

B
12-21-2015, 11:27 PM
Fiddy and a ditch to pass out in :dontknow:


weres the diving tanks n surfboard go ? :dontknow:

B
12-21-2015, 11:29 PM
The 60 series cruisers like you pictured is what I was thinking of
But from tailgate to end of rear seat folded down is only about 5.8
But wouldn't be hard to build a extension
Or like many do and a raised platform with storage underneath it


http://www.schroederworks.com/Pics/TrooperBack2.jpg


that's close to what im thinking more drawer style

Hello Kitty
12-21-2015, 11:34 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/5352024790.html
Sounds like your on a pretty awesome journey best of luck!
[cheers]

B
12-21-2015, 11:52 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/5352024790.html
Sounds like your on a pretty awesome journey best of luck!
[cheers]

thanks bro ..... i dont fit in a bad boy like that but a ex ambulance could be cool :D

4skin
12-22-2015, 12:41 AM
Yes exactly my 86 60 series has a hatch and tailgate
Note chasing a fat chinaman on a quad and hitting x ditches
At 70 km in a stock 60 series cruiser makes Trailjunky spill his drink

Moondog
12-22-2015, 07:13 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5366424264.html

B
12-22-2015, 08:20 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5366424264.html

if that was a gas pot id be more interested haha dam 6.0 fords

Trailjunkie
12-22-2015, 11:42 PM
Yes exactly my 86 60 series has a hatch and tailgate
Note chasing a fat chinaman on a quad and hitting x ditches
At 70 km in a stock 60 series cruiser makes Trailjunkie spill his drink

good times lol

westcoaster
12-25-2015, 12:33 AM
Full size ford cargo van (no windows)

You would be able to sleep in the back while parked anywhere. (it wont look like you're "camping")

When you get to where your going, park it on the side of the road, toss the keys to the first kid you see and hop a plane back north...

Trailjunkie
12-26-2015, 02:56 PM
theres a jeep liberty with a lift looks like in good condition for sale for 1500 on hwy seven between mission and hatzc.

Moondog
12-27-2015, 10:23 PM
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/vancouver/1989-ford-e350-74-cei1ing-van-p-lift-applianc-restaurant-artist/1075821841?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

EIEIO
12-29-2015, 03:27 PM
I agree with Bruce. landcruiser 60 series (HJ61 I really like). Its diesel swirl injection so you can run off of basically anything. Has beefy parts if you are loaded down for a trip that big. Plethora of information on the net as to what you should bring for spare parts.

Only probably is, it may be more expensive than what you are looking for. But if you are going on a trip like that, do you really wanna trust a $1000 YJ... Its $1000 for a reason ;)

Burge
12-30-2015, 03:53 AM
what about a 80s toyota motor home with a 4wd swap with a straight axle or a delica 4wd camperized rhd van with the diesel.

vajayjay
12-30-2015, 07:35 AM
Just take the dually :D

B
12-31-2015, 06:01 PM
Full size ford cargo van (no windows)

You would be able to sleep in the back while parked anywhere. (it wont look like you're "camping")

When you get to where your going, park it on the side of the road, toss the keys to the first kid you see and hop a plane back north...


looking more and more likely[cheers]

B
12-31-2015, 06:03 PM
theres a jeep liberty with a lift looks like in good condition for sale for 1500 on hwy seven between mission and hatzc.


go fuck yourself gently ;)


:D:D

no chance ever ...

B
12-31-2015, 06:07 PM
what about a 80s toyota motor home with a 4wd swap with a straight axle or a delica 4wd camperized rhd van with the diesel.

climbed around a delica van on a job site recently a lot of it would work me driving it for months straight not so much ...


on another note picked up a clean grampa owned 94 zj if this thing was 2' longer it really would be a candidate .. not sure what im gonna do w it at the moment but get out a bit hopefully

B
12-31-2015, 06:08 PM
Just take the dually :D

if i could afford the fuel it would be a no brainer lose the box flatdeck it ... looking at veggie fuel sources and conversions as we type :D:D

beeker
01-01-2016, 12:33 AM
u so need this!!!!
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/rvs/5356324863.html

depending on your price u want to spend this doesn't look like a bad deal (on paper atleast)

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/rvs/5287013449.html

a few to think about

atoyot
01-08-2016, 04:32 PM
saw this in the summer..in the similkameen...
they travelled from germany and were goin around the world...
its 4wd its pricey...but would do the trick nicely!:)

B
01-09-2016, 09:48 PM
thats super cool but way outta line budget wise say about a 5 k cap for the right ride or else ill just take what ever ive got at the moment and go as far as i can from what ive been reading most of Mex and Belize is pretty decent but from Costa Honduras south is were the right vehicle w make all the difference...

finding a non full size that w fit me a friend and gear while being some what economical is the fun part ... 2 biggest expense's are fueling the truck and fueling me :D


stuff likje this is interesting and may have to do but id really like 4wd ill be following monsoon season all the way down

http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5389972888.html

harvester_sorrow
01-09-2016, 11:09 PM
Roof top tent? Probably the same price as the vehicle though

4skin
01-10-2016, 12:33 AM
They do make those Astros in awd
And would defiantly consider it disposable

B
01-10-2016, 08:33 AM
Roof top tent? Probably the same price as the vehicle though


haha or more yep

tent w happen for sure but there will be weather and areas were sleeping in the great outdoors w not be safe or enjoyable ;)

barracuda
01-10-2016, 11:51 AM
roof top tents suck balls after a week of travelling and are good for destination camping but not traveling on the road every day expedition travelling
. they are a pain in the ass to pack away all the time, every time you want to travel explore etc . yes they set up fast and are pretty comfy but after extended stays (few weeks)the bottom of the mattress becomes damp because the floor/base is aluminum and the moisture condenses on it . when you need to get up in the middle of the night for a piss the ladder is fun :cool: .

gavman
01-10-2016, 03:09 PM
Which model roof tent do you own or have used Cuda? And a big empty bottle ( Gatorade ) is good for the midnight p breaks

barracuda
01-10-2016, 05:22 PM
tried out and looked at several before we settled on This one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zInhouOQ6K4 they are all basically the same, iron man ,arb (paying for a name here as they had the most flaws) etc they are all made by the same companies and assembled in wherever so the company can say they are made there (the QC is done by the end seller) we researched them a lot before diving in, the foam on the mattress was fantastic and firm but it is the basic design that is at fault if travelling everyday is in the plans. We stayed subzero to tropical temps in it and logged over thousands and thousand of kilometers travelling in it so it was good way to be able to see the limitations of the design.

if I were to get another for travelling I would want a FG hardshell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q_-1VpdIfg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlLepHd79iw if it was on a truck.

Or the conventional roof top tent on a roof rack on a trailer if I was camping. .

I was actually considering importing direct from the manufacturers and reselling them to the Canadian market at one point as you could bring them in for less then a 1/4 or retail and flog them to all the people that havnt spent months in them at a time

beeker
01-10-2016, 10:32 PM
how bout this add a receiver on the front for a winch ( make it useable
front or rear)
http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/rvs/5390766149.html
or this
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/rvs/5388357040.html

B
01-10-2016, 11:41 PM
how bout this add a receiver on the front for a winch ( make it useable
front or rear)
http://abbotsford.craigslist.ca/rvs/5390766149.html
or this
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/rvs/5388357040.html

[cheers]
def not what im after to large and heavy narrow roads once u get farther down suburban would be about the largest im interested in


http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/nvn/cto/5379451807.html

looking at these style vans but really hoping to find a decent suv w 4wd or a smaller 4x4 van for fuel costs :confused0006:

harvester_sorrow
01-11-2016, 11:10 AM
Full size savanna vans came AWD

barracuda
01-11-2016, 11:46 AM
I think the chevy express came all wheel drive and V6 96 - 2001

Murd0c
01-12-2016, 04:09 PM
Saw this one in the summertime and the people actually drove here from Argentina.

http://i.imgur.com/8Q470Wo.jpg

Honky
01-12-2016, 05:10 PM
too flashy..i wouldn't want to drive that there

B
01-12-2016, 07:56 PM
Saw this one in the summertime and the people actually drove here from Argentina.

http://i.imgur.com/8Q470Wo.jpg


never mind the 100 k plus :confused::confused: reality is probs gonna be a doing this in a civic lol its crazy what peeps think a 30 year old van is worth ...

B
01-12-2016, 08:32 PM
http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/5398519940.html

add a locker in the back it is a 1 ton

harvester_sorrow
01-12-2016, 09:46 PM
Comes pre whisky rippled. Parked in front of a pub too

4skin
01-12-2016, 10:53 PM
Hey it's extended so you could stretch out in the back big guy and have room for gear
And Johnny 5 has the 4wd conversion dialed on those

Apathy
01-13-2016, 08:42 AM
diesel nissan patrol

B
01-13-2016, 08:24 PM
Hey it's extended so you could stretch out in the back big guy and have room for gear
And Johnny 5 has the 4wd conversion dialed on those

yep ive been checkin that out already ... mr5 does some sweet work
[cheers]

tons of room no windows for added security... [cheers]

B
02-17-2016, 11:48 AM
http://images.craigslist.org/00h0h_gugSuJkQSBd_600x450.jpg


http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5448141966.html


looking more and more like this is the way im gonna go ...

Tinker
02-17-2016, 12:05 PM
Id try the older the better, simplified ignition and fuel system should anything go fer a shitter. Be an easier self repair than depending on parts available, computer flashed blah blah blah...

4skin
02-17-2016, 12:38 PM
Big Bs bus& dive tours nice

4skin
02-17-2016, 01:26 PM
So big guy you just going to leave it 2wd or do a conversion ?

B
02-17-2016, 06:43 PM
Id try the older the better, simplified ignition and fuel system should anything go fer a shitter. Be an easier self repair than depending on parts available, computer flashed blah blah blah...

5.3 is so much more efficient over a 350 give and take both ways if i can get into something like this w less than 250000 on it i wouldn't be worried... fuel will get upgraded filter system cause u never know down there ... they make a code reader for your phone now just need data and you can scan and read the complete system could be a asset :dontknow:

pro's n cons for sure

B
02-17-2016, 06:44 PM
So big guy you just going to leave it 2wd or do a conversion ?


budget states locker in the back small winch up front pin it to win it [cheers]

barracuda
02-17-2016, 07:59 PM
Bang Bus oh yeah

4skin
02-18-2016, 06:00 PM
I would consider changing from a in tank pump to a frame rail mounted one
For a couple reasons
1 you could add a pump prefilter water separator
2 make changing fuel pump easier and more options on finding a pump that would work or just carry a spare pump
Also would be nice to have a drain in bottom of gas tank in case you got a bunch of crap in tank

Murd0c
04-18-2016, 07:16 PM
Just saw this and thought it would be perfect for ya if you haven't picked anything up yet

https://vancouver.craigslist.ca/van/cto/5534493000.html