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Honky
08-07-2014, 10:05 AM
So for years I have been skidding my 14’ boat with a 20hp motor into the surf on the West coast of Vancouver island. When I say skidding I mean, with the help of my wife Heyann taking driftwood and my quad and skidding it in and out of the ocean. While it somewhat works it’s a real pain in the ass! It also still scrapes up the belly of the boat on the rocks. The Quad also gets a good soaking of salt water.

Last year I bought a set of skinny dual wheels for the back of the boat. It was a complete fail because they just sunk in the sand. This year with the help of Bruce-4skin he welding up some beefy wheels for the back and a wheel for the front so the quad could pull it around. While good in theory it was a complete fail as it didn’t make it to the water. NOT from anything that Bruce fabricated but from the stock channel as you can see in the picture.

So now I have, 350 days 15 hours 27 minutes and 55 seconds before we leaving for this beach again and this time I want to be ready!

Post up some idea’s …no idea is a bad idea ( oh no why did I say that ) and see what we can come up with.



Here is a pic with the wheels on it

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6971_zpshg0awbul.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6971_zpshg0awbul.jpg.html)



Ok now we are on the beach and bad things are happening


http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/20140726_160110_zps7zmyrg7m.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140726_160110_zps7zmyrg7m.jpg.html)



Here is the hail Mary fix....

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/20140728_204834_zpsithdf77a.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140728_204834_zpsithdf77a.jpg.html)



As you can see it didn't last long

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/20140730_094447_zpsbtttwgyo.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140730_094447_zpsbtttwgyo.jpg.html)


Then the other side started to go

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/20140730_093732_zps9c7cx9pa.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140730_093732_zps9c7cx9pa.jpg.html)


After this we went back to skidding








So now it's time to come up with Boat wheels 3.0

Tunabomber
08-07-2014, 10:22 AM
I would say the angle had something to do with it

Chody
08-07-2014, 10:43 AM
put in dodge bed, back up real fast and hit brakes



that or heavier duty channel

barracuda
08-07-2014, 10:46 AM
heavier duty material might help but then all your doing is transferring the weakest link. did you drag or push it with quad or did that damage happen when you were pushing it by hand? Larger diameter tires and a skeleton Tbar trailer that you can fold up would work ?

Honky
08-07-2014, 10:51 AM
In the first picture I was towing very slowing with the quad. The others were by hand. I thought of the fold up beach trailer but it would be hard to launch the boat backwards into the surf. It really needs to point forward.

Bigger wheels would work for the rocks but they need to fold up and if they are to fat it would interfere with the motor

barracuda
08-07-2014, 10:59 AM
heavier duty material on the main tube and perhaps some kind of suspension would help either trailing arm or even front forks from a mountainbike people always chuck out the suspension ones it seems . That way the tires simply go over the stones Rather then having to lift the entire weight of the boat . also change the load transfer

Honky
08-07-2014, 11:10 AM
that is a really good idea!!!!

Honky
08-07-2014, 11:13 AM
was thinking of something like this but but sure they could take the weight



http://www.beachmaster.co.nz/




http://www.beachmaster.co.nz/New%20Home%20Page%20Photos/Beachmaster%20Fixed%20Mount%20Option.JPG

4skin
08-07-2014, 08:50 PM
note those are beach master
not rock and log master
and those wheels look about the same size as the ones you got me
so I see the same problem with those

needs a bigger diameter tire seem to remember saying that in design stage
I wanted a wheel barrow tire as a comprimise from the bike tire
oh well that was version #1 next lol

Moondog
08-07-2014, 09:06 PM
http://www.sealegs.com/

Honky
08-07-2014, 09:31 PM
Seen the sealegs before.... Pretty Cool but way overkill and pricey for 5 times a year use

Moondog
08-07-2014, 09:36 PM
My other suggestion would be to lose the hollow aluminum tubing and square tubing make them out of solid aluminum instead and change out the one 8th inch channel and beef it up to quarter. That should hold up to the vibration better or go stainless. Also change the tire for a fatter inflatable one less chance of it into digging the gravel that way.

Honky
08-07-2014, 09:46 PM
I think that is the right way to go.... There was another boat on the beach and this is his channel setup



http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/Mobile%20Uploads/20140729_142420_zpsvqsfma1m.jpg (http://s993.photobucket.com/user/Funinbc_honky/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20140729_142420_zpsvqsfma1m.jpg.html)



His wheels still dug in but he wasn't breaking

TWOZEROFOUR
08-07-2014, 09:51 PM
two heavy duty rear mounts on the transom, Tractor 3pt hitch style. Mini yard tractor trailer / ATV trailer axle n wheel assembly. Wheel the fuk out of it.

a floatation tire is your solution, will stress the mounts less. I think princess auto sells the trailers for 200ish wich would score you a axle n wheels tires etc.

4skin
08-07-2014, 10:01 PM
a tube is harder to bend than a solid piece of aluminum or steel
due to it having more walls
pretty basic structural engineering
did those useing part of the original set up honky had
and stuff I had laying around in a couple hours
and it failed right where I knew it was going to

Moondog
08-07-2014, 10:06 PM
Wasn't knocking your work Bruce just offering my opinion from what I can see in the pictures you did a pretty good job. I saw a guy with the same set up that I posted a few years back on Vancouver Island said he had had the boat for 5 years at that point and the legs had never failed.

Burge
08-08-2014, 03:00 AM
What about making small axle with pad/saddle setup that goes the the full width of the hual and using a ratchet strap, strap it in place.

Happypants
08-25-2014, 08:41 PM
use some old quad tires on mounts