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Burge
04-17-2014, 01:54 PM
So ive been doing some research on propane conversions on pirate, Lots of guys are running propane and propane turbo setups. Is any one here running a setup and whats your input. I have a 22re minus the fuel cell and pump for my samurai. Im thinking propane it and make it dirt simple and just use forklift tanks. The kit is 900usd, or i could get my re setup for half that.

the pros

110-120 octane
runs cleaner
no spills
will run on any angle
dirt simple wiring
will produce same or better power
can have a quick connect for bbqs or tiger torch

the cons

finding fuel isnt anyways the easiest.
must have two tanks (a reserve)
costs more then working with what i already got
need a 22r dist and coil that i dont have

This build is on budget, Im just thinking if i keep it simple stupid there will be less to fail.

dirka dave
04-17-2014, 02:50 PM
Propane is for BBQ 's.

Toyquad
04-17-2014, 04:21 PM
More or same power???

You've probably been told they get better mileage too......

85chevy
04-17-2014, 07:04 PM
If yea want it to produce the same power your looking at a rebuild to increase compression plus in order to make the same power u have to use more fuel in per power cycle because it has a lower BTU then Gasoline.

vajayjay
04-17-2014, 07:12 PM
Propane burns hotter, need to rebuild the valves with hardened seats

Burge
04-18-2014, 03:08 AM
More or same power???

You've probably been told they get better mileage too......

i dont give a fuck about milage, trial only rig. Ive read you can expect a full day of trails on one forklift tank.

as per hardened seats they are perferred but you can get away with out them for a bit.

can i hear from someone who is actually running it on this application?

85 chevy, there is no need to increase compression, im toying with the the idea of boosting the "high comp block" its a 9.5 to 1 where the 22ret runs 7.5 to 1 at 6psi of boost.

Burge
04-18-2014, 03:37 AM
http://www.gotpropane.com/p540.html

http://www.gotpropane.com/p11.html

Burge
04-18-2014, 03:55 AM
But buying a fuel cell and a inline pump and keeping efi that i already have would be more in my budget. But I keep chewing on the idea of a propane setup for some reason?.? another con to the tubro propane setups ive been are that its a blow through design, meaning the fuel flows through the turbo and the Charged air piping. So if the the timing is way out, something is gonna blow.

dirka dave
04-18-2014, 10:02 AM
Screw the propane.

Use alcohol !![36]

Punk in Drublic
04-18-2014, 11:19 AM
My buddy devon was rockin a 22 r on bbq juice. Not sure what all he had done for work to it but it was def not low on power. Ripped the freeway at 120 on stickys with beadlocks. And plenty of crawl with twin cass

crimsen
04-20-2014, 08:52 AM
What do u wanna know? Turbo pane 22 r and my mixer is after turbo and intercooler

Burge
04-20-2014, 04:09 PM
Are you happy with it?
would you do it again?
How was it with propane without boost?
did you build or buy your exhaust manifold?
have you done anything to your head yet?
anything you done to the bottom end?
how much boost are you running?
what turbo are you running?

dirka dave
04-20-2014, 04:59 PM
Why is there air.

crimsen
04-20-2014, 11:24 PM
Are you happy with it?
would you do it again?
How was it with propane without boost?
did you build or buy your exhaust manifold?
have you done anything to your head yet?
anything you done to the bottom end?
how much boost are you running?
what turbo are you running?

Yes

Yea

Dont know. Vehicle came with pane and turbo

Previous owner built the exhaust manifold

Nothing to head to my knowledge

Nothing to bottom to my knowledge

Unregulated atm. Try to keep 5-6 at the top end

Not sure on source but it is a t4 bolt pattern i believe. Will see if i can find anything on it.



I will also check with a friend who is running a 350 chevy twin turbo propane buggy and his bro with a 22r turbo propane as well.

Murd0c
04-21-2014, 02:11 PM
just go with a liquid injection propane system so your truck can run on gas as well if you can't find a place to fill up. As well there is no HP loss which is kinda important for a 22re lol

ktowner351
04-21-2014, 03:01 PM
Ive been on bbq fuel for a year now and love it.. when I had it on a carb with gas I was spending like 60$ a week for fuel.. now I can can go about 3 weeks for 60$ of propane drive the same route as before. .. I have an 87 22r at first I was running a duel fuel setup as I was afraid about running out.. well I scraped that system and made a throttle body adapter now I run dedicated propane.. I scored mine from pick n pull off a Nissan and got it for pennys... I rebuilt the motor and kept it stock other than adding a gm alt swap and the big 3 upgrade.. brpke the engine in on gas and the propane was an after thought. . Trucks never idled or ran as nice as now. I dont notice any power loss if anything i have more. Its all about tuning the rig to run on propane.. get r done!

ktowner351
04-21-2014, 03:07 PM
This was after the rebuild before propane..

ktowner351
04-21-2014, 03:08 PM
Apparently It ran upside down

ktowner351
04-21-2014, 03:45 PM
This is now

Apathy
04-21-2014, 04:33 PM
cheaper and easier to convert it to EFI.

You can find everything for pennies.

I wouldn't run propane for the simple reason of distance.

ktowner351
04-22-2014, 09:06 AM
To 70$ of propane it will take me 350km.. I could never of gone half that with a tank of gas

ktowner351
04-22-2014, 09:08 AM
The reason I didnt go efi was because this is what was available and I was able to do it all for about 100$

ktowner351
04-22-2014, 09:13 AM
All the parts I was able to use are all common forklift parts.. and I built my own adapters...

As for distance. Everyone on propane is always scared about how far they can go and what if they run out... I use a gauge and its pretty well bang on aswell as tracking my mileage. . And if I do run out oh well.. I have a cheater hose and lots of bbq tanks which are also easy to take on longer trips.. one bbq take will give me a quarter tank....

crimsen
04-24-2014, 09:31 AM
And the other 2 here in town are the same. Love our bbq, never have issues with fuel tha are not self induced, and pretty sure all still stock internals.