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Trailjunkie
01-24-2014, 10:52 PM
need an IDM module for my 2003 Ford F-350 7.3 Diesel Duelly 4X4. any one got one or can get me a deal ? my truck looks all unhappy sitting outside all not running and stuff.:(

85chevy
01-24-2014, 10:56 PM
Change ur batteries lately?

Trailjunkie
01-24-2014, 11:26 PM
yep brand spanking new. new injection wiring harnesses valve cover gaskets and clips also.

dirka dave
01-26-2014, 09:58 AM
Shitty, pull the old one out from the fender well, sometimes you can open them up an dry it out, re seal it.
It sits In a shitty spot.


It's an expensive part, but without it your truck is a paperweight.



Just did one in a buddy's truck.

Ginger Snaps
01-26-2014, 09:08 PM
Call Sean at PDR tell him Matt sent you

Ginger Snaps
01-26-2014, 09:13 PM
295.00 exchange Doug he's got them

Trailjunkie
01-27-2014, 12:33 AM
thanks man

longhorn
01-27-2014, 07:41 AM
Check the oil level in your HPOP if its a 7.3 I almost got stung for a pump and it was the oil level.
Truck wouldn't start Ford told me it was the HPOP and a local guy told me it was the IDM and really all it needed was a cup of oil.

Trailjunkie
01-27-2014, 06:01 PM
i borrowed an idm for a bud to try in it and no difference although its a different model number and only 100 and mines a 120 .

longhorn where dd you add the cup of oil??

Happypants
01-27-2014, 06:22 PM
The powerstrokes are hydraulic injectors Doug, by that, which he means is check your oil level, they have a safety shutoff if your low on oil the truck won't run,

85chevy
01-27-2014, 06:26 PM
The powerstrokes are hydraulic injectors Doug, by that, which he means is check your oil level, they have a safety shutoff if your low on oil the truck won't run,
They also won't fire if ur engine doesn't crank over fast enough must hit a certain rpm before it will fire the injectors

Trailjunkie
01-27-2014, 06:34 PM
ok checked the hpop oil was i tiny bit down so i topped it up but just a few drops

longhorn
01-27-2014, 07:35 PM
CPS be the next cheapest thing to try.
They go all the time Ive changed 3 on my 02, I pack a extra one and a 10 mm wrench.
Fairly easy to change

longhorn
01-27-2014, 07:42 PM
Check this out.

http://www.guzzle7pt3.com/cps.php

Trailjunkie
02-01-2014, 03:26 PM
k im so frustrated . now so ive replaced batts injector harnesses clips idm module cps and no start. so what else is there? i need new cloud , mines to black.

Happypants
02-01-2014, 03:50 PM
Can u toss your scanner on it? Does it bring up any codes? Take a good look around the engine bay, make sure that u didn't accidentally unhook something in the process of doing everything,

Deep breath, dump gas, light match,

Trailjunkie
02-01-2014, 04:14 PM
Deep breath, dump gas, light match,

now thats an idea.

well im forded out for today time to light a fire and forget that my favorite truck is laughing in my general direction. i may just have to break down admit defeat and tow the bastard to a qualified mechanic.

westcoaster
02-01-2014, 05:09 PM
Just for giggles check the resistance between the two negative battery posts. Should be 0 ohms (or darn close to it)

Buddy with an '05 6.0 had 34 ohms between the posts. Drivers side battery wasn't charging properly nor running at the proper voltage. All sorts of other problems, but the truck did run...

vajayjay
02-01-2014, 05:13 PM
Ignition coil :dontknow:

4skin
02-01-2014, 05:44 PM
Spark plugs are dirty

Always broke
02-01-2014, 06:06 PM
Doug I have a snap on scanner you can borrow to help you diagnose

toyon35s
02-01-2014, 06:37 PM
I would suggest a cup of gas and a match , it's only a ford after all :D

Prolowtone
02-01-2014, 07:32 PM
Try to start it in neutral instead of park? Could be the neutral safety switch

longhorn
02-01-2014, 07:41 PM
Once when my quit it was the HPOP.
Reach in behind your fuel filter housing and see if there tin nut fell off the IPR.
Or get a good light and look in there and make sure that nut is on, it wont start if its off.

Wish I was closer I know I could figure it out , Ive had every stupid breakdown a 7.3 can have and fixed most of them myself.
Its usually simple shit on the 7.3.
When you try to start it does your tach move?
Any smoke coming out exhaust when you try to start it?

96_z71
02-01-2014, 08:20 PM
Does the wait to start light come on? If not I'd check the PCM fuse. My buddies '01 7.3 had the fuel bowl heater short out, and because it pulls power from the PCM circuit (great idea), it popped the fuse. Crank but no fire, and no wait to start light. We ended up just disconnecting the heater until he got a new one.

longhorn
02-01-2014, 08:38 PM
Does the wait to start light come on? If not I'd check the PCM fuse. My buddies '01 7.3 had the fuel bowl heater short out, and because it pulls power from the PCM circuit (great idea), it popped the fuse. Crank but no fire, and no wait to start light. We ended up just disconnecting the heater until he got a new one.


Yup what you said is another commons fail.............
Don't need that heater anyway , just unplug it and chec k fuse.

skyjacker
02-01-2014, 10:57 PM
Dose it even turn over Douge ?

dirka dave
02-02-2014, 12:17 PM
Ian going to gess that the screen in the injector pump may have disigrated and plugged the injector.

Trailjunkie
02-02-2014, 01:07 PM
turns over but no start

i will check for that nut

smoke out of exhaust . yes

wait to start light comes on. yes

checked all fuses.

anyone dealt with bernhousen diesel?

Trailjunkie
02-02-2014, 02:15 PM
Doug I have a snap on scanner you can borrow to help you diagnose

that would be mighty nice of yah todd.

Always broke
02-02-2014, 02:22 PM
Call me and we can set it up bud

longhorn
02-02-2014, 03:30 PM
Plug it in for a couple of hours and see if that makes it do anything different.

longhorn
02-02-2014, 03:52 PM
Doug did it quit while you were driving or did you go out in the morning and it wouldn't start?

4skin
02-02-2014, 04:19 PM
It quit while he was driving on rough gravel road
Figures I just gave tod his scanner back a week ago lol

Trailjunkie
02-02-2014, 08:39 PM
never quit just i was just pulling the heep on the flat deck out to stave and it started running like shit by the boat launch so i left it there went wheelin. got back started fine ran like shit but made it to pavement . called bcaa and kev to come get my trailer. then kev showed up i started it again to pull away from trailer . towed home never started again.

MOOSEHUNTER
02-02-2014, 09:16 PM
burn it buy a Chevy lol

MOOSEHUNTER
02-02-2014, 09:16 PM
I mean that sucks still hasn't started since that day

longhorn
02-02-2014, 10:36 PM
Picture of the tin nut that falls off.
Right on the end of the circled IPR

Apathy
02-03-2014, 09:32 AM
doug, you said you fixed the harness under the valve cover.

I have done this also, and when i was done it ran worse!!!
So, i pulled it back apart and found that in the process of putting the valve covers back on, i knocked the injector wires loose.

After looking at it, its actually kind of difficult NOT to knock them loose when putting the valve cover back on.

Look here. It appears you have done everything else. Since you are getting smoke, thats saying its fireing.. but not really, you could be trying to run on 4 cylinders.

4skin
02-03-2014, 12:53 PM
The yanky has apoint

skyjacker
02-03-2014, 02:31 PM
Mine died on me much the same way , changed the fuel filter and it took ALOT to get it running again had to plug it in charge the batteries and bleed the fuel system , it ran like shit for 10mins after I got er going then finally cleared up

Pull ur fuel filter out and change it if you haven't and see if there is fuel in the bowl

Another thing is sometimes the pickup falls off in the tank causing you to run out of fuel at 1/4 or so

I've fucked with these things quite a bit I've done the valve covers and all that jazz and haven't had any problems since then

4skin
02-03-2014, 02:41 PM
First thing I asked him shure it's not empty lol

85chevy
02-03-2014, 06:47 PM
Mine died on me much the same way , changed the fuel filter and it took ALOT to get it running again had to plug it in charge the batteries and bleed the fuel system , it ran like shit for 10mins after I got er going then finally cleared up

Pull ur fuel filter out and change it if you haven't and see if there is fuel in the bowl

Another thing is sometimes the pickup falls off in the tank causing you to run out of fuel at 1/4 or so

I've fucked with these things quite a bit I've done the valve covers and all that jazz and haven't had any problems since then
Its what happens when u dead head the fuel line in the end of a cylinder head no way to get the air out once its in

Trailjunkie
02-03-2014, 08:41 PM
ive got todds scanner now so after dinner ill go out and whats what

skyjacker
02-03-2014, 09:16 PM
Its what happens when u dead head the fuel line in the end of a cylinder head no way to get the air out once its in

Can't say I know what that diesel mechanic lingo means but I take it I did something wrong as per usual sorry for trying to help once again

Trailjunkie
02-03-2014, 09:42 PM
so looks like cylinders 4 , 5 , 7 high to low side open codes
p1277
p1274
p1275
which if im right means the new injector wiring harnesses on those cyl's aren't connected or aren't responding.
fkn dammit so that's two on pass side and one on the drivers side .
guess its all gotta come apart and be redone. awesome.

4skin
02-03-2014, 10:49 PM
Can't say I know what that diesel mechanic lingo means but I take it I did something wrong as per usual sorry for trying to help once again

What he meant was ford dead headed the fuel system
In other words a pipe that's capped at one end with no way to bleed it
And it will run like crap till the air gets out through the injectors

Apathy
02-04-2014, 09:22 AM
so looks like cylinders 4 , 5 , 7 high to low side open codes
p1277
p1274
p1275
which if im right means the new injector wiring harnesses on those cyl's aren't connected or aren't responding.
fkn dammit so that's two on pass side and one on the drivers side .
guess its all gotta come apart and be redone. awesome.

yup, you kno knocked off the injector wires when you had the valve covers off..

sucks:mad0217:

dirka dave
02-04-2014, 10:07 AM
so looks like cylinders 4 , 5 , 7 high to low side open codes
p1277
p1274
p1275
which if im right means the new injector wiring harnesses on those cyl's aren't connected or aren't responding.
fkn dammit so that's two on pass side and one on the drivers side .
guess its all gotta come apart and be redone. awesome.

[speach]

Shitty.

I know how it feels.

Apathy
02-04-2014, 12:07 PM
[speach]

Shitty.

I know how it feels.

did you find out whats wrong with the luxo?

dirka dave
02-04-2014, 12:26 PM
Not yet.

I have the heads at work.
Stripping them down.

longhorn
02-04-2014, 03:37 PM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/782933-idm-codes-im-an-idiot.html#post6639153

Apathy
02-04-2014, 04:09 PM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/782933-idm-codes-im-an-idiot.html#post6639153


my truck has teh "quarter" trick done to it.. been a few years too

longhorn
02-04-2014, 06:23 PM
my truck has teh "quarter" trick done to it.. been a few years too


I did mine it was -45 in Fort St John and I broke the plastic holder clip.
I was working out in a friends driveway, the quarter actually holds better than the proper clips.

Always broke
02-04-2014, 06:33 PM
At least now your not guessing at what's wrong

Trailjunkie
02-04-2014, 06:40 PM
lol broke my original clips doin that fkn quarter thing to

longhorn
02-06-2014, 07:35 PM
Is this thing going yet?

Trailjunkie
02-08-2014, 01:20 PM
k so i broke down and towed it to the shop last week and wow. there was one faulty injector but the main wiring harness had shorted out melted wires in it. so many hours chasing codes and trying and speculating to end up with that.so 700.00 spent here on this then 2000.00 + in the shop and i will have me a running dependable tow rig once again , finally.:)

wheres that fkn lottery win when i need it eh. lol

Happypants
02-08-2014, 01:37 PM
Fuck Dude, that sucks,hopefully it gets all fixed up n Wut not,

Trailjunkie
02-08-2014, 02:00 PM
hopin so man.

Always broke
02-08-2014, 06:09 PM
So what are you towing to potatoepotatoepotatoepotatoepotatoe?
:)

Trailjunkie
02-08-2014, 06:40 PM
depends on the snow but probably my heep and maby the bike

dirka dave
02-08-2014, 09:18 PM
170859

Trailjunkie
02-11-2014, 08:48 PM
so i went and picked it up today. with today's fisting the repair hit the 3000 dollar mark. i learned a few things and did get a good look at the wiring of this truck witch seems excessive buts all good now.

Honky
02-11-2014, 08:51 PM
ouch!!!

what did it turn out to be?

Happypants
02-11-2014, 08:55 PM
Holy fuck!!!! Well at least you will be nice and primed for potatoepotatoepotatoepotatoepotatoe lol, :goatse:

Tinker
02-11-2014, 09:00 PM
MUTHA FOCKER!!!! Ouch!

Trailjunkie
02-12-2014, 08:52 AM
turned out to be bad choices on my part and wiring issues.

Tunabomber
02-12-2014, 09:29 AM
:O ...... Thats 1000 more than a new motor for me hoe

85chevy
02-12-2014, 07:11 PM
so i went and picked it up today. with today's fisting the repair hit the 3000 dollar mark. i learned a few things and did get a good look at the wiring of this truck witch seems excessive buts all good now.
Its what came before common rail and everything got simpilar but hopefully it will be problem free for a long time now

m j
03-02-2014, 10:32 AM
is that BurnHosing pricing?
cause nothing you listed costs that much
the wiring on the 7.3 is about as simple as it can be but if a glowplug shorts out it melts the wires.

simple DVOM test from the IDM harness will tell you whats what, and a visual under the valve cover. gaskets are reuseable until the pass-thru wires start leaking oil.
http://www.gbreman.com/techbulletin_103.html

Trailjunkie
03-02-2014, 01:24 PM
BD quoted me a new main wiring harness at 1267.00 plus tax then said ford dosen't offer it any more.but then ford wanted 970.00 for the IDM lorco wanted 600.00 and BD wanted 567.00 i got it for 216.00. i spent 700.00 in parts and labor before it left my driveway. the rest was labor to trouble shooting then replacing wiring one at a time in the harness.