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Honky
09-25-2013, 11:23 AM
The truck
2005 Dodge SRW 2500 with airbags

I pulled into the scales with the camper on and pulling three quads. Here are the numbers

Frist off the stats for my stock truck ( all in KG)

MAX Stock specs........ On the scale
GVWR 4,082
GAWR (F) 2,358 ...........2,210
GAWR (R) 2,721 ...........3,770
TOW WT 4,467 ............2,050

As you can see Iím over my max GAWR in the rear



Iím looking at getting into a new Dually here are the specs for that


MAX Stock specs
GVWR 6,351
GAWR (F) 2,272
GAWR (R) 4,423
TOW WT 10,663
And the big number Ö.. GCWR 14,514 ( 32,00 lbs)

4skin
09-25-2013, 12:03 PM
Better yet look at max load rating on your tires
And was that weight on the way up
Or way back after trailjunky used the shitter

Honky
09-25-2013, 12:19 PM
Max tire load is 1450kg

Does that mean I double it?

Happypants
09-25-2013, 12:46 PM
1450 per tire

Honky
09-25-2013, 12:56 PM
Yeah time to upgrade to a dually

epic3
09-25-2013, 12:58 PM
wow thats not safe dude

Chopstick
09-25-2013, 01:11 PM
So max tire in the back is 2900kg. U running 10ply tires atleast?

My old ford has better capacity! Could u have shifted your trailer weight more to the back? Too much forward weight

I do the same as u! Fully loade with full tanks of diesel an i roll over the scale to see if im legal! Most of the time i dont have to shift my weight around but had to once

Honky
09-25-2013, 01:38 PM
Even with just the camper on I'm over weight. No way around it to be safe it's time to step up to a dually. I prefer the look of the SRW but with what I carry/tow I don't think I have much of a choice

and yes the tires I have on are 10 ply E rated

Murd0c
09-25-2013, 01:40 PM
at least you found this out before you had a blow out or something!!

Trailjunkie
09-25-2013, 05:10 PM
yep dually time kev.
and bruce shuddap you face asshatt.

harvester_sorrow
09-25-2013, 07:55 PM
3 guys and minimal camping gear i've been over in my tacoma :vroam:

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Honky
09-25-2013, 08:24 PM
I take minimal gear when I camp in my jeep

If you want to go ocean fishing and quading on the west coast of Vancouver island 3 guys and minimal gear is not going to cut it

Toyquad
09-25-2013, 08:51 PM
how much more can a srw 3500 take?

westcoaster
09-25-2013, 09:10 PM
how much more can a srw 3500 take?


2359kg front
2790kg rear

is what is on my door sticker '04 3500 srw. Only real difference between the 3500 and 2500 is the over load springs and the door sticker... everything else is the same mechanical wise.

Gross combined is not legislated here in BC. Only restriction on trailer weight is based on the horsepower output of your engine.

Although, I thought I read somewhere once that 30% of the trailer weight must be on the traction tires. Haven't found that in righting though...

Honky
09-25-2013, 09:23 PM
the new 2013 dodge crew cab SRW is:


MAX Stock specs
GVWR 6,351
GAWR (F) 2,721
GAWR (R) 3,175 ............................... I am 3,770 with the camper on
TOW WT 7,688
GCWR 5,307 ( 11,700 lbs)



still not enough. I would still be over the max with the SRW

Honky
09-25-2013, 09:24 PM
here is the link to all the numbers


http://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/pdf/2013_RAM.3500.Towing.Specs.pdf

Honky
09-25-2013, 09:28 PM
2359kg front
2790kg rear

is what is on my door sticker '04 3500 srw. Only real difference between the 3500 and 2500 is the over load springs and the door sticker... everything else is the same mechanical wise.

Gross combined is not legislated here in BC. Only restriction on trailer weight is based on the horsepower output of your engine.

Although, I thought I read somewhere once that 30% of the trailer weight must be on the traction tires. Haven't found that in righting though...


the brakes are also bigger on the 3500 over the 2500

4skin
09-25-2013, 11:08 PM
2359kg front
2790kg rear

is what is on my door sticker '04 3500 srw. Only real difference between the 3500 and 2500 is the over load springs and the door sticker... everything else is the same mechanical wise.

Gross combined is not legislated here in BC. Only restriction on trailer weight is based on the horsepower output of your engine.

Although, I thought I read somewhere once that 30% of the trailer weight must be on the traction tires. Haven't found that in righting though...

You are only allowed so much tongue weight though
And dot will check it But the 30% thing could be 5th wheel trailer
First I've ever heard of horsepower regulating weight alowable
Considering big rigs are only about 400 horse average
But with all the other regulations that make no sense could see it

westcoaster
09-25-2013, 11:22 PM
what can I say...

Wading through all the fine detailed points as to what it takes to tow a trailer will make your head spin....
the weight thing Probably doesn't apply to small vehicles anyway...



http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/30_78

Weight to horsepower

7.21 A person must not, without an overload permit, drive or operate on a highway a combination of vehicles unless the gross vehicle weight to the manufacturer's rated horsepower of the towing vehicle bears a relationship of not more than 150 kg to one horsepower.

[en. B.C. Reg. 95/2006, s. 3.]

fullsizebronco
09-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Just go to the insurance place and bump your gvw when I did it I could barely notice the increase on my insurance ...or a new truck is always nice too lol

C-Dog
09-25-2013, 11:48 PM
Dually time for sure :D and the a 19.5 or a 22.5 wheel conversion so your tires will never overload and wear out and rip up like u rip tires lol

And then some folding jacks on the camper to go around wheel wells too..... Or shit just get a new camper while your at it :dontknow: lol

4skin
09-25-2013, 11:59 PM
Well reading that explains why no one can tell you what insurance you need
On your flat deck car hauler behind your truck and camper
And c dog this is his new camper lol

longhorn
09-26-2013, 09:18 PM
Make sure you do the math, I didn't.

I bought a dually and after I refigured everything the dually isn't rated for anymore that my single wheel.

My dually is more stable but cant pack anymore or tow anymore that my single wheel crew cab.

Duallys a 99 F-350- and single wheel is a 02 F-350.

Only difference on a Ford between the 250 and the 350 is a block in the rear springs.
Brakes and everythings the same.

beeker
09-26-2013, 11:58 PM
pm sent

crimsen
09-28-2013, 12:27 PM
what can I say...

Wading through all the fine detailed points as to what it takes to tow a trailer will make your head spin....
the weight thing Probably doesn't apply to small vehicles anyway...



http://www.bclaws.ca/EPLibraries/bclaws_new/document/ID/freeside/30_78



at the very top of your link, in big bold letters,

"Commercial Transport Regulations"

since when is joe blow hauling his camper and trailer to go camping considered commercial ???

crimsen
09-28-2013, 12:33 PM
Make sure you do the math, I didn't.

I bought a dually and after I refigured everything the dually isn't rated for anymore that my single wheel.

My dually is more stable but cant pack anymore or tow anymore that my single wheel crew cab.

Duallys a 99 F-350- and single wheel is a 02 F-350.

Only difference on a Ford between the 250 and the 350 is a block in the rear springs.
Brakes and everythings the same.


are you saying your dually and SRW have near the same or the same GVWR that your payload never increased ?

are both diesel?
was there a change over between those years?

85chevy
09-28-2013, 12:43 PM
Any truck is considered commercial look at ur insurance papers.....

Honky
09-29-2013, 10:37 AM
I did a search for a new dodge dually. What's interesting is there is not a single truck west if Toronto

Looks like I'll fix up mine for now and wait till next year

vajayjay
09-29-2013, 11:04 AM
I think you did something wrong

Here are the specs on my 2010
Axle Base Basewt GAWR Max
Engine Type Transmission Ratio GVWR Payload Weight Front Rear Front Rear GCWR Trail
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) M6 POSG56 6 sp MANU (DEG) 3.42 12,200 4,580 7,618 4,602 3,016 5,500 9,750 19,000 11,250
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) M6 POSG56 6 sp MANU (DEG) 3.73 12,200 4,580 7,618 4,602 3,016 5,500 9,750 21,000 13,250
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) A6 68RFE 6 sp AUTO (DG7) 3.42 12,200 4,660 7,537 4,516 3,021 5,500 9,750 17,000 9,300
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) A6 68RFE 6 sp AUTO (DG7) 3.73 12,200 4,660 7,537 4,516 3,021 5,500 9,750 21,000 13,300
6.7L 24V Turbo Diesel (ETJ) A6 68RFE 6 sp AUTO (DG7) 4.10 12,200 4,660 7,537 4,516 3,021 5,500 9,750 24,500 16,800

Honky
09-29-2013, 05:51 PM
Those are in pounds..... I converted to kg

westcoaster
09-29-2013, 06:53 PM
at the very top of your link, in big bold letters,

"Commercial Transport Regulations"

since when is joe blow hauling his camper and trailer to go camping considered commercial ???



An den I look at my insurance papers for my pickup that is insured for pleasure use.
It says: vehicle type : COMMERCIAL

I'm confused...

redline
09-29-2013, 09:00 PM
I did a search for a new dodge dually. What's interesting is there is not a single truck west if Toronto

Looks like I'll fix up mine for now and wait till next year


Richmond chrysler shows some 2014 duallys on their website. Any dealer should be able to bring one in from them.

barracuda
10-02-2013, 02:22 PM
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