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toyotaAlex
05-05-2013, 11:30 AM
Hey all, I can get a good deal on a Detroit locker for the rear end of my yota. What would be some pros and cons for this setup?
My yota is a 1985 pickup 22re with 4.10s on 31" tires that I DD

In The Zone
05-05-2013, 11:41 AM
No cons as far as street driving U may feel engagment if u hammer the skinny pedal on corners though.. I say go for it..

toyotaAlex
05-05-2013, 12:10 PM
U may feel engagment if u hammer the skinny pedal on corners though.. I say go for it..

come on man! its only a 30 year old 22re :p . maybe i will notice it when i finish the other engine im building :)

crimsen
05-05-2013, 05:13 PM
pro

increased off road traction
its a full locker so more durable than the lunchbox lockers.


con

noisey when street driven. tends to bang as engaging or disengaging.
a broken axle shaft MAY result in blowing up the locker. its not common but it does happen.
fairly expensive IIRC. usually a little less than other full lockers but alot more than lunchboxes

dirka dave
05-05-2013, 07:13 PM
I have a Detroit in the rear of my 82'. It's about 15 years old, I have 5.29 and have put lots of miles on it. I love it.

It's locks up on the street once in a while, but for the most part it drives like an open diff but if you hammer it or push it into a corner it will lock up.

It's one of the best investments I have made.

4skin
05-05-2013, 11:17 PM
I have a Detroit in the rear of my 82'. It's about 15 years old, I have 5.29 and have put lots of miles on it. I love it.

It's locks up on the street once in a while, but for the most part it drives like an open diff but if you hammer it or push it into a corner it will lock up.

It's one of the best investments I have made.

How many k have you put on it in the last three years though Dave
200 to 300k think the only one that drives there toy less is metal melisa
And that's just because he lives a few k closer to that camping spot once a year
But like crimson said they do lock and unlock in corners
The votes arnt all in on if its the locker that breaks then the axle
Or the axle breaks first but a 22re on 31s is unlikely to break either
Mines on 38.5 boggers spool and dual transfer cases

barracuda
05-05-2013, 11:49 PM
ive had detroits in the toy rear when I had toys and done thousands of km from cross country trips to nasty abusive off roading and hunting trips and never really had an issue .

the toy axles are pretty robust and should be fine with the stocker engine and little 31s. largest tire I ran was a 35 inch tire

I snapped axles on my dana 60 in my ford but that's a ton more weight, power and gearing and was normally from sticking it in low with the front hubs unlocked and giviner till I heard a snappppp!!!:eek: :eek: :eek:


you will have to adjust your driving style to compensate and I think that is where most people fail when it comes to an auto locker as they try to drive the vehicle the same as they did pre locker. Tire wear is minimal, rotate tires and drive without a lead foot so the rear isn't always locking and scrubbing.

WestCoastMoose
05-06-2013, 09:27 AM
I have a full detroit in the rear and am also extremely happy with its performance.
Although last year I did snap a rear axle shaft right at the hub, the thicker part of the shaft before it joins with the hub.That is almost 1" thick round at that point.The locker did not blow, so if an axle breaks, the locker should work just fine, just that all your power is to one tire.
Also broke a CV shaft up front,blew a Aisin hub, and I have a True Trac in there.

As Barracuda said, tire wear is minimal.I never rotate my tires because wear is so even with the locker.

dirka dave
05-06-2013, 09:43 AM
Quit being an ass.

I have put over100 000 k on my 82'. My father put over 260 000 k on it before he sold it to me.

How many k have you put on in the woods ?

My truck has been to Alaska, nwt, sask. and beyond.

Just sayin'.

When you get 100 000k on your willy then well talk.

Happypants
05-07-2013, 12:27 PM
Quit being an ass.

I have put over100 000 k on my 82'. My father put over 260 000 k on it before he sold it to me.

How many k have you put on in the woods ?

My truck has been to Alaska, nwt, sask. and beyond.

Just sayin'.

When you get 100 000k on your willy then well talk.


If it even gets that close lol,

toyotaAlex
05-08-2013, 07:42 AM
One other thing, what kind of muffler are you running with your 22rs if you still have one? I'm looking for a little meaner noise but nothing too loud

dirka dave
05-08-2013, 07:57 AM
I have a Doug thorley header into a glass pack.
Then it just dumps down, loud when I am on the throttle, but flows nice.

Flowmaster 40's are quite nice.

4skin
05-08-2013, 08:50 AM
Quit being an ass.

I have put over100 000 k on my 82'. My father put over 260 000 k on it before he sold it to me.

How many k have you put on in the woods ?

My truck has been to Alaska, nwt, sask. and beyond.

Just sayin'.

When you get 100 000k on your willy then well talk.

I said last three years not in its lifetime !!
And yea the willys probably won't get a lot of km on it
But it wasn't built for that and the drivetrain in it has over 400.000 km on it
As does the frame and my motor hasn't been rebuilt

procircuit
05-08-2013, 09:01 AM
One other thing, what kind of muffler are you running with your 22rs if you still have one? I'm looking for a little meaner noise but nothing too loud

header into a 50 series flowmaster... sounded pimp with the lumpy cam

dirka dave
05-08-2013, 09:59 AM
Yes Bruce in the last three years I have not been out a ton, but a renovation, third child, and a new engine in the 4runner along with getting my gto on the road takes up a lot of time and money.

Besides, Das beater is a fun car to beat on.

:D

toyotaAlex
05-15-2013, 08:33 PM
bringing this thread back, people are telling me the axles are probably going to break when i add the detroit. i dont really believe them but is there something to worry about there?

dirka dave
05-15-2013, 09:31 PM
Just do it.

:D

barracuda
05-16-2013, 01:53 AM
on a toy with 31??????? who the3 hell tells you that ?? some counter jockey that wants to up sell you .??? sounds like something IWE would tell you lol lol lol

toyotaAlex
05-16-2013, 07:25 AM
Bahahahaha, yeah he's a counter guy. Drives some sort of old Hyundai shit box hahahaha. Apparently the one they had was for the v6 3rds. Is there a way to make it work for my 4banger diff?

procircuit
05-16-2013, 08:22 AM
Bahahahaha, yeah he's a counter guy. Drives some sort of old Hyundai shit box hahahaha. Apparently the one they had was for the v6 3rds. Is there a way to make it work for my 4banger diff?

no wont work... but if i were you at that point i would be getting some v6 thirds

toyotaAlex
05-16-2013, 08:30 AM
I guess the next question is if anyone has a couple 4.10 v6 3rd laying around that they would be willing to part with. Can anyone hook a brother up?

dirka dave
05-16-2013, 08:41 AM
Possible.
Was kinda saving them for a rainy day.

4skin
05-16-2013, 08:43 AM
Yes you can make it work there is a different bearing kit
But the v6 case and gears is stronger
Can you break a toy rear axle sure
I haven't on 38 s and it isn't likely on 31s not going to say you couldn't
Some guys can break a steel ball in a rubber room

procircuit
05-16-2013, 09:02 AM
shhh don't tell him.. v6 thirds ftw

TWOZEROFOUR
05-16-2013, 09:06 AM
im 38.5's x 14.5's always 2-3psi full spools on stock axels 4cyl thirds, beat it do burn outs, no breaky breaky.

dirka dave
05-16-2013, 09:52 AM
I have a Detroit and an ARB set up with 5.29 in 4cyl thirds.
With 37" mtr's.
No problem.

EIEIO
05-16-2013, 12:51 PM
welded 4cy 3rd, 5.29's, 37" mtrs. never broke anything.

toyotaAlex
05-16-2013, 01:55 PM
Do the ones you have have the 4.10s? I can trade driveline work or cash I guess. I just don't want to wait 6 months for them to source 4cyl Detroit.

4skin
05-16-2013, 02:43 PM
Maybe check on the bearing kits there is a kit to put a ARB or Yukon zip locker
That are made for v6 thirds only
Into a 4 cyl dropout maybe talk to BCC they deal mainly with toys

Murd0c
05-16-2013, 04:52 PM
I have a Detroit and an ARB set up with 5.29 in 4cyl thirds.
With 37" mtr's.
No problem.

How can it break sitting in your garage? :dontknow:

toyotaAlex
05-16-2013, 10:19 PM
the smack talk on this forum cracks me right up [15] [15] [15] [15] [15]

dirka dave
05-17-2013, 06:20 AM
How can it break sitting in your garage? :dontknow:


Good one......did you think all day on that one ?

:murdumb: :murdumb:

4skin
05-20-2013, 11:31 PM
How can it break sitting in your garage? :dontknow:

It can't break in his garage it's sitting in his back yard
Oh and the willys racked up some kms this weekend

Murd0c
05-23-2013, 10:41 AM
Good one......did you think all day on that one ?

:murdumb: :murdumb:

Is that all you got?