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Half Slant
04-26-2012, 03:29 PM
So here I am at work, trying to keep myself busy when I decided I would start utilizing this time to make a decision on what route I want to go with an SAS.. Came across a pretty useful site, lots of info, lots of pictures and ideas.

http://nissannut.com

Anyways, looking into the options more, I think this may be the way I will go.

http://nissannut.com/projects/SAS_3link/

Casselman
04-26-2012, 08:30 PM
Do a radius arm / coil swap with a D44, all depends on your budget and fabrication skills

hoser
04-26-2012, 09:11 PM
sell it and buy a toyota..easier to do plus cheaper...

then youll be with the cool crowd also[cheers]

Half Slant
04-26-2012, 10:02 PM
sell it and buy a toyota..easier to do plus cheaper...

then youll be with the cool crowd also[cheers]


I am not a follower, I don't need a toyota to be with the cool crowd.:rolleyes:

I'll stick with this for now, and MAYBE in the future, after I'm done destroying this one, I'll think about a toyota.

Half Slant
04-26-2012, 10:11 PM
Do a radius arm / coil swap with a D44, all depends on your budget and fabrication skills

Well I'm definitely looking for a cheaper route, yet not as hokey pokey as the one on texas4x4.org .. Fabrication Skills, minimal. :confused: BUT, everyone needs to start somewhere, and I'll never learn and better myself if I don't.

Radius Arm Swap, would you say its more cost-effective, or an easier build, or both? :dontknow:

Casselman
04-26-2012, 10:57 PM
Radius arm set up be easier and cheaper, I'm doing a coil and radius arm suspension from a 78 bronco on my s10, only money that's into it is gears, coil buckets & coils

Griswold
04-26-2012, 11:09 PM
Cool.....You Go Girl......... I started cutting out the old suspension in the Griswold Mobile today... Woot Woot

StinkFinger
04-27-2012, 09:47 AM
Radius arms are cheep and sleazy the least effort and best bang for your buck

Half Slant
04-27-2012, 10:45 AM
Cool.....You Go Girl......... I started cutting out the old suspension in the Griswold Mobile today... Woot Woot

I saw the video of the grinding process. Good to see you've begun your adventure[36]

Apathy
04-27-2012, 10:47 AM
Radius arms are cheep and sleazy the least effort and best bang for your buck

100% agreed.

You can pick up a set of radius arms for 25 bucks, build your own mounts, and an entire new bushing set is like 50 bucks

Half Slant
04-27-2012, 10:58 AM
100% agreed.

You can pick up a set of radius arms for 25 bucks, build your own mounts, and an entire new bushing set is like 50 bucks


HMMMMMMMMMM:confused0006: Did you do radius arms in your pathy? Did you do any write ups or anything on it? I'm still in the researching stage, not in any rush either.

Apathy
04-27-2012, 01:53 PM
HMMMMMMMMMM:confused0006: Did you do radius arms in your pathy? Did you do any write ups or anything on it? I'm still in the researching stage, not in any rush either.

yes i have radius arms.
its pretty easy, if you decide to do it, i can tell you the simple easy steps to it.

4skin
04-28-2012, 02:05 AM
stockwheels explorer has a lengthend ford radius arm setup
i would run a jhonny joint on the end of the arms instead of the ford bushings the first set of urethane ones lasted 2 short trips
the stock rubber type have lasted longer
yupp cheap and sleazy and works

Half Slant
04-30-2012, 03:32 PM
yes i have radius arms.
its pretty easy, if you decide to do it, i can tell you the simple easy steps to it.


Well, any info you can give would be great.

Apathy
05-01-2012, 10:43 AM
Well, any info you can give would be great.

whats your plan? what size tire
What front axles? DO NOT use an U 100 axle. they are narrow and the diff is more centered. it will hit your oil pan.

EIEIO
05-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Just a little something for you to drool over

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g187/eheye/Matchew_Pitchew/DSC07481.jpg


[36]

ginge-rook
05-01-2012, 11:31 AM
someone say toyota?? hhaha

Half Slant
05-01-2012, 11:38 AM
whats your plan? what size tire
What front axles? DO NOT use an U 100 axle. they are narrow and the diff is more centered. it will hit your oil pan.

Maybe 35s for a minimum, but I do have access to a set of 33s if I need be when the time comes. But 35s would definitely be a good size for me. Currently looking/may have found a HP 44 from an early bronco, if that doesnt pan out, i'll be continuing the adventure of looking for another one. Still sticking with the plan of a D44 from a wagoneer or a bronco. Like I said though, I'm still in the process of researching. I'm open to ideas, and it's a big learning process for me.

Half Slant
05-01-2012, 11:46 AM
Just a little something for you to drool over

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g187/eheye/Matchew_Pitchew/DSC07481.jpg


[36]


God damn.... Whos rig?! Now that's more of something I'd be down with, but you know what, a pathfinder build is a unique build and I gotta work with what I got... Who knows.. Maybe a fleet of nissans is in the future.:dontknow:

Apathy
05-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Maybe 35s for a minimum, but I do have access to a set of 33s if I need be when the time comes. But 35s would definitely be a good size for me. Currently looking/may have found a HP 44 from an early bronco, if that doesnt pan out, i'll be continuing the adventure of looking for another one. Still sticking with the plan of a D44 from a wagoneer or a bronco. Like I said though, I'm still in the process of researching. I'm open to ideas, and it's a big learning process for me.

early bronco = U100.
No good. diff will hit the oil pan

dirka dave
05-01-2012, 02:48 PM
Lordco sucks.

Just sayin'. :D

Half Slant
05-01-2012, 04:53 PM
Lordco sucks.

Just sayin'. :D


Lol thanks for reminder. I almost forgot

Half Slant
05-01-2012, 05:07 PM
early bronco = U100.
No good. diff will hit the oil pan

Ahhhhh I see. Well then. Wagoneer ? Will that work ?

Punk in Drublic
05-01-2012, 05:36 PM
put on your big girl panties and go full width

Half Slant
05-01-2012, 07:57 PM
put on your big girl panties and go full width


Go big or go home.oh yeah

dirka dave
05-01-2012, 09:14 PM
Lol thanks for reminder. I almost forgot

No problem

:D

Apathy
05-02-2012, 11:20 AM
IF you go wagoneer front you can keep the nissan rear end and keep 6 bolt pattern. But you will have to run a CV to the front. HP you don't have to.

if you go full width, get F100 axles and use the 9" rear. you can buy a 9" rear and build it cheaper than you can buy gears for a H233b.

Stay away from 78/79 F150 radius arm HPD44's. They have crap axle tubes.
Find a HPD44 from like 72 or so, then convert it to disk breaks.

Half Slant
05-02-2012, 12:06 PM
IF you go wagoneer front you can keep the nissan rear end and keep 6 bolt pattern. But you will have to run a CV to the front. HP you don't have to.

if you go full width, get F100 axles and use the 9" rear. you can buy a 9" rear and build it cheaper than you can buy gears for a H233b.

Stay away from 78/79 F150 radius arm HPD44's. They have crap axle tubes.
Find a HPD44 from like 72 or so, then convert it to disk breaks.


I was just educating myself a bit more about the choices..

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Dana44.htm


Running a CV to the front, any advantages or more disadvantage?

If I go full width, I should probably keep it that way? Someone did tell me I could shorten it, but recommended I only do that if I still plan on driving it on the road. Once I start the build, the only time it'll be on concrete is when I'm on my way out to the bush, or, it will just end up being trailered. But, the downside to throwing it on a trailer is I would have to either go fight for my old one back, or get another one. Then tow rig.. Mmmm Full Size. Anyways, decisions, decisions. So many to make, and I can't decide. :confused:

EIEIO
05-02-2012, 12:29 PM
God damn.... Whos rig?! Now that's more of something I'd be down with, but you know what, a pathfinder build is a unique build and I gotta work with what I got... Who knows.. Maybe a fleet of nissans is in the future.:dontknow:

Local guy in Abbotsford. Same platform as the pathy. Running yota diffs and a supercharged xterra motor [cheers]

Half Slant
05-02-2012, 12:42 PM
Local guy in Abbotsford. Same platform as the pathy. Running yota diffs and a supercharged xterra motor [cheers]

God damn. oh yeah

I thought yota diffs wouldn't work? I think a supercharged motor in the bush is too dangerous for me. I'd like to live to see 25 lol

Punk in Drublic
05-02-2012, 12:58 PM
God damn. oh yeah

I thought yota diffs wouldn't work? I think a supercharged motor in the bush is too dangerous for me. I'd like to live to see 25 lol

25 is over rated, just fucken giver [36]

Half Slant
05-02-2012, 01:05 PM
25 is over rated, just fucken giver [36]

LOL i haven't even made it to 24 yet.. Still working on year 23 over here:party0010:

EIEIO
05-02-2012, 02:13 PM
it bolts in ;)

He has a custom OTT adapter from the Nissan t-case to a D300 giving him the right side drop for the yota front end.

Half Slant
05-02-2012, 02:32 PM
it bolts in ;)

He has a custom OTT adapter from the Nissan t-case to a D300 giving him the right side drop for the yota front end.


:confused0006: now you're putting a whole new set of ideas in my head...:happy0045:

EIEIO
05-02-2012, 05:05 PM
But before you start modifying yours, have a look under the back seat. VERY common spot for those things to have cancer.


To be honest, for what you are doing. Get a set of 32-33" mud tires, cut up your fenders and weld up the rear. Slap some armour on, go have hours of fun!

Don't do a solid axle swap unless you have a years worth of downtime pre-booked with the truck. Because with a SA swap, all the little shit gets ya.

Half Slant
05-02-2012, 05:25 PM
I've already been sitting on the idea for about 3-4 maybe even 5 years now. The cancer is minimal, very back of the frame and is fixable. BUT i also have another pathy on the mind which only has wheel well cancer. I have no problem having it off the road for a while, as long as it needs to be. I also have a cherokee sitting in my driveway right now to get me to and from the lake as well as ready to tow the bikes.

Apathy
05-03-2012, 09:26 AM
God damn. oh yeah

I thought yota diffs wouldn't work? I think a supercharged motor in the bush is too dangerous for me. I'd like to live to see 25 lol

They won't work without modifications.
wrong side drop on the front axles.
So, you would either need to cut and turn or run an adapter and other T case rather than the nissan.

dirka dave
05-03-2012, 09:45 AM
Sell it and get a 4 runner, there are tons of aftermarket parts available for them.

I not sure how much there is for nissan, but it seems to be getting better.


:D

EIEIO
05-03-2012, 10:25 AM
Calmini does alot of Nissan stuff. Pricey. More and more stuff is coming out for them because people are finally realizing that the shit is BEEF!

Apathy
05-03-2012, 12:00 PM
Calmini does alot of Nissan stuff. Pricey. More and more stuff is coming out for them because people are finally realizing that the shit is BEEF!

I've been telling people this for years, they are just starting to belive it.

However, i have seamed to have bent both of my factory spring buckets out back.. give my rig a bit of a gangster lean. lol

EIEIO
05-03-2012, 03:36 PM
Nothing wrong with that :p Just need to bump some Too Short :D

Well not all Nissan is beef, certain stuff is. torsion bars = crap. titan rear ends = crap. holes under rear seats = crap.

720 tcase = geah! pickup rear = geah! SR20DET = GEAH!! RB26DETT = FUCK GEAH!

Half Slant
05-03-2012, 03:51 PM
Calmini does alot of Nissan stuff. Pricey. More and more stuff is coming out for them because people are finally realizing that the shit is BEEF!


Thats right. Nissan is no worse than Toyota lol

Apathy
05-03-2012, 03:54 PM
Nothing wrong with that :p Just need to bump some Too Short :D

Well not all Nissan is beef, certain stuff is. torsion bars = crap. titan rear ends = crap. holes under rear seats = crap.

720 tcase = geah! pickup rear = geah! SR20DET = GEAH!! RB26DETT = FUCK GEAH!

Titan rear end is a Dana 44. why would you do that? the should have used the H260.

VG30 are AWESOME engines, mated to a better manual tranny.

But ya, the torsion bars are not so good. holes under rear seats only happen in road salt situations.

EIEIO
05-03-2012, 03:57 PM
he used a toyota rear. 1 link. i was just saying in general for the application, they suck :p

Apathy
05-03-2012, 04:02 PM
he used a toyota rear. 1 link. i was just saying in general for the application, they suck :p

the stock 6 cyl rear is very good. you said titan.

The H233b behind the v6's (hardbody, pathfinder, xterra) were good rears, comparable with a ford 9".

The Dana44 in the titans was just a dumb idea by nissan, they were working on the american market.. hey look.. we have an american build d44 back there.

well, whats gona happen to that poor D44 with over 300 horse and a 7K lb trailer behind it? BOOOOOM

[cheers]

Half Slant
05-03-2012, 07:06 PM
Doing a bit more research, I would like the stance to be something along the lines of this ;)

http://nissantrailriders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=984

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/DKimSAS/frntaxle043.jpg?t=1269701545

Hellboy
05-04-2012, 10:13 AM
Doing a bit more research, I would like the stance to be something along the lines of this ;)

http://nissantrailriders.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=984

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i186/kennylauter909/DKimSAS/frntaxle043.jpg?t=1269701545

Hey look it even has XJ parts :D

Half Slant
05-04-2012, 10:33 AM
Hey look it even has XJ parts :D


..... So, what you're saying is.... it can go anywhere now.#yeah

Hellboy
05-04-2012, 10:46 AM
..... So, what you're saying is.... it can go anywhere now.#yeah

Yup :party0010:

Half Slant
05-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Yup :party0010:

Even 20 ft into Stave Lake and back without a tug? lol