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Bigsexy
12-23-2011, 12:05 AM
wheres the most affordable place ( that still has quality work) to get a set of rear leafs made up.. OR can u re-arc a stock set an gain 9'' of lift out of them? Id like for my truck to stay soft, without changing to a linked or airbag setup. Any suggestions of where to get / what i should look for? I just took the liftblocks out.

Truck is a 96f150 shakel reversal installed already and im trying to achieve 13'' lift in total outa the rear end to match the 12'' front.

what are some options [cheers]

Punk in Drublic
12-23-2011, 12:33 AM
why so much lift?

MOOSEHUNTER
12-23-2011, 12:48 AM
abby spring. got my fronts new for 180

4skin
12-23-2011, 02:10 AM
problem with a hi arc or re arced spring is there stiff
the more arc the stiffer they are
12 inches of lift thats huge you planing on runing 54 s:dontknow:

epic3
12-23-2011, 03:31 AM
yeah thats crazy!

In The Zone
12-23-2011, 07:36 AM
Abby spring and ya be a huge arc either way plain physics.

Bigsexy
12-23-2011, 08:50 AM
i heard abbyspring wasnt very good.. Or was it carrier spring?... one of the places in abby ive been told by several ppl doesnt have quality work. but u guys went with abby eh?
Runnin 12'' lift so i can fit 46's and dont have to cut fenders. :D

In The Zone
12-23-2011, 12:37 PM
yes abby spring awesome service and product... carrier spring no I was not happy with service..

if you run a 60" spring with a arch of 12" thats a 5:1 height to length ratio static , unloaded hard to say...

Punk in Drublic
12-23-2011, 03:18 PM
arent you running a d44? might want to re think your tire choice if you plan on running this anywhere but the street. what are your plans for truck, will it see moderate/ heavy off road use, or will it be a pavement princess. sounds like its going to end up with a high center of gravity, understrength axles and stiff suspension.

Bigsexy
12-23-2011, 03:51 PM
arent you running a d44? might want to re think your tire choice if you plan on running this anywhere but the street. what are your plans for truck, will it see moderate/ heavy off road use, or will it be a pavement princess. sounds like its going to end up with a high center of gravity, understrength axles and stiff suspension.
No more D44, D60 is gettin put in.. and the rear is a 14B FF.. i dont think theres guna be any strength issues. The truck was nice and soft sitting perfect before i ripped out the rear blocks cause they were double stacked with stock leafs ( a 4''lift block and a stock 2'') but now i need to get a proper set up for the rear, had alot of axel wrap too so im hoping No blocks and a tiny bit stiffer leaf will help fix that problem.

Bigsexy
12-23-2011, 04:05 PM
if you run a 60" spring with a arch of 12" thats a 5:1 height to length ratio static , unloaded hard to say...

i have nooo clu what this means.. ?? I know that stock is 54'' & 3'' wide... [cheers]

crimsen
12-23-2011, 04:17 PM
The desired effect you have in mind can not be achieved with leaf springs being re-arched.


If you insist on using leaf springs, you will need to build severly dropped brackets and/or a sub frame and use stock or slightly modified lift springs with no more than 4" lift.

4skin
12-23-2011, 05:22 PM
this burb had 12 inch lift springs
reason i say had is when it was finished
the owner drove it from my place to his place
less than a 1/4 mile and he realized it was to much
he couldnt see were the road was at the end of the driveway
without hangin out the window
think its got about 6 inches now
oh and thats on 44s
not saying dont do it
just be prepaired for further isues[cheers]



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96_z71
12-23-2011, 08:24 PM
all i know is i want that burb!

78bronco
12-23-2011, 10:47 PM
i think i saw that burb on c list in the summer

64CJ6Willy
12-24-2011, 03:20 AM
money money money.......... MonEE.
Yeah, nice, stationwagon. Where's the grocery cart lift? Sweet ride!

4skin
12-24-2011, 03:23 AM
not shure i know he sold the tires and lowerd it alot almost imediatly

Bigsexy
12-24-2011, 01:30 PM
my truck doesnt sit nearrrly as hi as that burb!!! dayummm thats big lol.. but How come i cant just get a set of 6'' lift leafs... put that stock 2'' block back in, call it done? that would be 12'' of lift if u include the shakel reversal thats been installed.... Right? OR is that 2'' block guna give me alot more axel wrap? noticable or not? ive just been told to get rid of the blocks all togather.. but im thinkin if they put em in stock they cant be that bad can they?

4skin
12-24-2011, 02:09 PM
any time you ad d leverage like a block to suspension
you increase the chances of spring wrap
and we usualy amplify the problem with soft springs
the best way would be to lower the spring mounts
but with a 460 in there you will need to build a anti wrap bar of some kind

StinkFinger
12-26-2011, 03:38 PM
i would run a 3" block and a realy good traction bar the more you arc a spring the shittyer it is going to ride unless your going to buy some big $$$ springs like deavers

Punk in Drublic
12-26-2011, 03:42 PM
id cut the fenders.

In The Zone
12-27-2011, 09:45 AM
the shackle reversal actually will help with spring warp lowering the mounting point on the rear of the leaf effectivley changes the caster angle of ring gear
ie pinion elevated more. meaning will take more torque before the u joint is caused to bind..I would say with a 2" block and even add a leaf's u would be safe and get the height u need... U can Always un do what u do not like...


I could be totally blowing smoke out my ass
but this set up works great for me...pic with 44's

bcbugger
12-27-2011, 01:34 PM
dont go to carrier spring....bad experience there

Bigsexy
12-28-2011, 08:41 AM
[cheers] thanks for suggestions so far, last question is about my rear shakel then... what angle would be most effective. or no angle and have it straight up and down??

crimsen
12-28-2011, 01:36 PM
straight up and down will give you no droop, and horizontal will give you no compression. so depending on what you want will determine how much angle you go with.

going backwards from vertical, 25-30* angle pointing down and to the back of the vehicle with the weight on the springs would be kind of the "normal" area.