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Honky
04-27-2011, 06:42 PM
What do you think. Not sure if this is ideal but it should work. I don't think the guy knew as much as he said he did.

The reamed out hole still has some slight play. When i pick this up he said that he didn't have the right reamer so made a spacer.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/75fa1243.jpg

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/3b3406b6.jpg

regulate34
04-27-2011, 06:46 PM
looks like he went a little deep. going to have to put washers on it i guess

Trailjunkie
04-27-2011, 06:49 PM
weird man

barracuda
04-27-2011, 07:14 PM
tup he went a bit deep by the sounds of it

longhorn
04-27-2011, 07:49 PM
Had a girlfriend like that once , she kept saying I was going to deep..................

youngun
04-27-2011, 08:19 PM
hahahahahaha

m j
04-27-2011, 08:20 PM
wow...

Moondog
04-27-2011, 08:43 PM
Should have gone to Jeep Thrills [f]

Honky
04-27-2011, 09:28 PM
FUCK YOU DAVE...why do you have to be suck an asshole

Trailjunkie
04-27-2011, 10:00 PM
suck an asshole

bah ha ha

Happypants
04-27-2011, 10:21 PM
Kevin, was that reamed for a 1ton TRE? I think I have a pitman arm that's reamed out properly, I wouldn't use that one you got, I would get my money back, I'll look tomorrow n let ya know,

Honky
04-27-2011, 10:24 PM
lol that was $70 for the ream job

youngun
04-27-2011, 10:51 PM
better have came with a happy ending for 70 bucks

Honky
04-27-2011, 11:05 PM
I would think that is standard shop rates.....I was not looking for it cheap....just done right

I guess I didn't get either lol

B
04-27-2011, 11:23 PM
thats part of your steering it's kinda important and that my friend is fucked .... did you give him the tre at the same time as the pitman arm ? ...

i hate to say it but id have a hard time paying for that ...

4skin
04-27-2011, 11:29 PM
so you got your manpit arm reamed
and payed 70 bucks
i could nave got it that close with a die grinder
or wobling a drill
just saying

m j
04-28-2011, 05:55 AM
When i pick this up he said that he didn't have the right reamer

odd he didnt know that prior.
pretty much every TRE uses the same reamer

dirka dave
04-28-2011, 06:12 AM
IMO its not a good job or safe for that matter.

regulate34
04-28-2011, 07:57 AM
IMO its not a good job or safe for that matter.
and this mofo fixes buses

pumpkin
04-28-2011, 08:15 AM
You may have paid for a proper job, but you definately got reamed. You now have an ugly paper weight.

UU
04-28-2011, 08:21 AM
Stubbornness 1 - Honky 0

dirka dave
04-28-2011, 09:26 AM
and this mofo fixes buses

I build cummins isl engines now. I thank you.

Moondog
04-28-2011, 11:26 AM
FUCK YOU DAVE...why do you have to be suck an asshole

[15][15][15][15][15][15][15][15]

Am I bugging you yet [f]

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Honky
04-28-2011, 11:42 AM
did you suck an asshole yet?

Moondog
04-28-2011, 11:43 AM
Did you go to Jeep thrills yet?

dirka dave
04-28-2011, 12:07 PM
drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama drama

In The Zone
04-28-2011, 12:29 PM
I would get a refund... even with a spacer which is wrong the tre is not going to be tight and will wear faster it is un safe..

Honky
04-28-2011, 12:34 PM
Did you go to Jeep thrills yet?


really dave...FUCK OFF leave this alone... or do you want to keep pissing me off:dontknow:

Happypants
04-28-2011, 12:47 PM
thats part of your steering it's kinda important and that my friend is fucked .... did you give him the tre at the same time as the pitman arm ? ...

i hate to say it but id have a hard time paying for that ...

I wouldn't have paid for it, I woulda thrown it at the fucker and told him to buy u a new pitman arm, steering is not to be Fucked around with like B said, I'll look tonight if I have that pitman arm thats reamed out for a 1ton TRE

youngun
04-28-2011, 01:23 PM
I guess im missing something, but whats wrong with going to Jeep Thrills?

barracuda
04-28-2011, 01:26 PM
I guess im missing something, but whats wrong with going to Jeep Thrills?



SNAP!

Oh No yo Di int:p

Honky
04-28-2011, 01:29 PM
Nothing is wrong with them or the people that work there

I'm just not a customer lets leave it there

youngun
04-28-2011, 01:33 PM
Alright, just was wondering. Looked threw the venting room and didn't see anything so I was just trying to figure out what was going on.

Thread can continue..

Moondog
04-28-2011, 01:35 PM
really dave...FUCK OFF leave this alone... or do you want to keep pissing me off:dontknow:



Maybe :D
















































If I don't stop are you going to crylollollollollol



















































































































I have had my fun and I will leave it alone..........
























































































































For Now [cheers][cheers][cheers][cheers][cheers][cheers]

Moondog
04-28-2011, 01:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JoKJsjtLxw



:D

Chopstick
04-28-2011, 02:58 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JoKJsjtLxw



:D

best song ever!! A S S H O LE, A S S H O LE.... WoooOOOOOoooo


dude!! no play, if theres any play your gonna wear out your hole quickly an then it'll just blow apart without any warning

never half ass your steering!! one of the most important things on your rig

B
04-28-2011, 03:10 PM
best song ever!! A S S H O LE, A S S H O LE.... WoooOOOOOoooo


dude!! no play, if theres any play your gonna wear out your hole quickly an then it'll just blow apart without any warning

never half ass your steering!! one of the most important things on your rig


or your trackbar .... [f]

your gonna die .....[22]


fatstick ... :D

Punk in Drublic
04-28-2011, 03:19 PM
best song ever!! A S S H O LE, A S S H O LE.... WoooOOOOOoooo


dude!! no play, if theres any play your gonna wear out your hole quickly an then it'll just blow apart without any warning

never half ass your steering!! one of the most important things on your rig



id take his advice, i heard about the play in his hole [1c]

Moondog
04-28-2011, 05:14 PM
His hole is so slack those Chilean miners are using it as a holiday let

StinkFinger
04-28-2011, 05:25 PM
if you get another pitman arm i can do it right for you and 70 bux is a rip

Dreded
04-28-2011, 05:25 PM
think of it this way... if that fucks up and you don't notice and it ends up falling out your tires could turn completely sideways and under the right circumstances you do an endo... any of you guys remember helping a F-450 Flat deck last may long(happypants was there) because we lost a castle bolt and the tie rod fell off? It was because of a improperly reamed hole.

youngun
04-28-2011, 05:29 PM
id take his advice, i heard about the play in his hole [1c]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

England
04-28-2011, 05:42 PM
heeheeehee...you said hole

4skin
04-29-2011, 02:12 AM
just put the old one back on it would be about as safe
as well as if dot saw that in a roadside youre geting towed
i got a inspection order on my ford for 2 missing coterpins
that i was on my way to get
that was the only thing they found
in 20 minuites

epic3
04-29-2011, 12:05 PM
20 more bux and you could have bought the reamer and done it yourself and still had the tool.

Honky
04-29-2011, 12:19 PM
Ok I talked to the guy that did the Ream job and let me ask you if this makes sense what he said.....

What he said was he HAD to go that deep or there would not be full engagement on the TRE shaft. That if he reamed out only enough to the point of getting the crown nut tight then the shaft would only be part way in the pitman arm and the rest would be riding on the threads.


Does that make sense? Thoughts?







http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/75fa1243.jpg

barracuda
04-29-2011, 12:32 PM
as far as i know your only meant to do it deep enough to get the castle nut on and cotter pin in .

youngun
04-29-2011, 12:32 PM
does make sense, would not want to have he pitman arm riding on the tre threads, but something just does not look right to me

barracuda
04-29-2011, 12:35 PM
it couldnt ride on the thread as the threads are centered and smaller diameter then the hole. all the threads +nut do is pull the male section into the female section

Trailjunkie
04-29-2011, 12:36 PM
it should not ride on the threads but i think there's a better way.

Honky
04-29-2011, 12:39 PM
but if he drilled it to just the level where you can tighen down the nut then all those threads would be down inside the pitman and therefore there would not be full engagment on the shaft? :dontknow:

Punk in Drublic
04-29-2011, 12:40 PM
id say get onne you know is donne right, maybe keep that one in the trail sspare box. my $1.50

B
04-29-2011, 12:42 PM
what is the part # on the tre you are useing kev ? ... something isnt right


141867


we do this all day long with out issue's [cheers]

youngun
04-29-2011, 12:49 PM
if it was not reemed as deep as it is done, there would only been contact on 1/2 of the taper and the other half would be in the air which would cause it to oval out really quickly i would think.

Like B said, something just is not right.

Honky
04-29-2011, 01:01 PM
The TRE is for a 1978 Waggy narrow track Dana 44


The Pitman arm is just from a stock YJ


Bought from NAPA for $74.29 and the part number is 269-2328

barracuda
04-29-2011, 01:25 PM
take off a stock one and you will see the threads go below the top of the pitman arm surface .

B
04-29-2011, 01:27 PM
i don't have napa number's maybe they can cross them over es2027L if it's left hand thread or 2027r if right hand thread ... go in with the arm so you can test fit them ...

Apathy
04-29-2011, 01:45 PM
put a washer on it.
Teh only problem i see with it (functional and safety wise)
is that the nut is going to bottom out on the shank before it actually becomes tight.

Is it perfect.. no, will it work, yes.. but make sure the nut comes tight against the pitman arm, and not bottoming out on the shank before it gets tight.

Honky
04-29-2011, 01:56 PM
take off a stock one and you will see the threads go below the top of the pitman arm surface .

I had to cut the old one off ....it was the only way to get it off...all it would do was spin

Honky
04-29-2011, 02:21 PM
i don't have napa number's maybe they can cross them over es2027L if it's left hand thread or 2027r if right hand thread ... go in with the arm so you can test fit them ...


The cross to ES2027L is a Napa 269-2442 but strangly enough they do not have a cross to the Right hand thread :dontknow:

I double checked with a different store and they came back with the same 269-2328 but I bought the last one in Canada


I will take the pitman arm in and compare but because the pitman are we reamed out to fit the TRE I took in it might not line up anyways....but it's worth a shot

Jeepnut
04-29-2011, 02:45 PM
put a washer on it.
Teh only problem i see with it (functional and safety wise)
is that the nut is going to bottom out on the shank before it actually becomes tight.

Is it perfect.. no, will it work, yes.. but make sure the nut comes tight against the pitman arm, and not bottoming out on the shank before it gets tight.




[stupid] ...............

barracuda
04-29-2011, 02:50 PM
not really sure why people think it has to pull all the way through past the threads.

take a look at this. http://jcroffroad.com/install_guides/1tonsteering.pdf

Chopstick
04-29-2011, 02:54 PM
my costum steering TRE dont go all the way through... buddy knew he messed up thats y he made that custom washer for u. ya go ahead an use what he gave u but later on down the road when that washer snaps your gonna have to pay someone else to make u another custom part for your steering

youngun
04-29-2011, 03:51 PM
not really sure why people think it has to pull all the way through past the threads.

take a look at this. http://jcroffroad.com/install_guides/1tonsteering.pdf


I don't think it has to pull all the way through, but i think for the most strength and longevity full contact on the TRE taper and the taper in the pitman would be best. I'm sure it would be fine to use with the spacer he supplied, but just looks kinda hacked together, thats all
:party0010:

barracuda
04-29-2011, 04:54 PM
the nut has to bottom against the pitman arm before the end of the thread . if the taper wasnt so deep it would not have this problem . it does not have to go all the way through to have sufficiant contact.

you also mht find that because it is cut so deep and the male piece is in to far it might also bind on suspension travel



if it was spinning before did someone do the same thing?

Bent Black
04-29-2011, 05:45 PM
the nut has to bottom against the pitman arm before the end of the thread . if the taper wasnt so deep it would not have this problem . it does not have to go all the way through to have sufficiant contact.

you also mht find that because it is cut so deep and the male piece is in to far it might also bind on suspension travel



if it was spinning before did someone do the same thing?
[36] yup[cheers]

Apathy
04-29-2011, 05:47 PM
[36] yup[cheers]

not necesarly, some times when the TRE are completely warm out, they just spin in the socket, and the nut won't come off.

85chevy
04-29-2011, 05:54 PM
Nut doesn't come off because of the cotter pin but if its worn out it can just come apart

Bent Black
04-29-2011, 05:54 PM
to check if the taper is corect put bluing or black jiffy on the stud, twist the two together and check that all of the colour is being scuffed off the stud. It should not have any wiggle when pushed together finger tight with out the nut. it is too deep, but the washer will work. steering is over rated anyways.[cheers]

m j
04-29-2011, 06:48 PM
you already said it has the wrong taper
the amount of taper engaement is a function of the thickness of the pitman where the taper is
the full engagement story is total BS
the riding on threads story is total BS
in order to tighten the taper into the bore enough the threads have to be below the surface

the 2027L is usually matched with a 2026r in the chevys that it came stock on. one of them is longer then the other but cant recall which one

m j
04-29-2011, 06:51 PM
I think its brakes that will only slow you down and are therefore overrated,
steering is important so you dont hit a bump and spill your beer

4skin
04-29-2011, 10:05 PM
old pitman arm was ovaled out
maybe some one put a lock washer under the nut and it spit out
who knows :dontknow:
tried every thing to undo tre before I took a zip cut and cut tre off
then i went home :D

i have done the spacer like that out nececity
old drum brake dana 70 that had a unobtanium stering arm
that the taper was fucked reemed it to fix taper

but it would constantly loosen
good point on it binding hadnt thought of that
the leverage could pull tre apart or break sector shaft and pitman arm

UU
04-30-2011, 12:35 AM
drama or you could have gone to Jeep Thrills and saved us all 5 pages of BS

Apathy
04-30-2011, 07:20 AM
if the taper is wrong, no good.
its not going to bind, 3-4mm isn't enough to make a difference.

some of you guys are really over thinking this.

Ironman
04-30-2011, 09:24 AM
i guess if they had the right part to work with it would have helped eh kev [f]

Moondog
04-30-2011, 10:11 AM
[32].......

m j
04-30-2011, 10:22 AM
what "right part"?
all the TRE have the same taper, just different depths of cut, and the 2027 and 2026 are the largest commonly used, so I dunno what he was tapering for.
if he was just charging into it without a TRE to test fit then he was fucking up and has no leg to stand on in blaming the customer as he just shouldnt be cutting something without knowing how deep it needs to be
if its a shop they could have lordco drop off a TRE in a few hours

from the top, had the wrong taper reamer, so shouldnt have been cutting anything anyway

epic3
04-30-2011, 12:00 PM
what "right part"?
all the TRE have the same taper, just different depths of cut, and the 2027 and 2026 are the largest commonly used, so I dunno what he was tapering for.
if he was just charging into it without a TRE to test fit then he was fucking up and has no leg to stand on in blaming the customer as he just shouldnt be cutting something without knowing how deep it needs to be
if its a shop they could have lordco drop off a TRE in a few hours

from the top, had the wrong taper reamer, so shouldnt have been cutting anything anyway

Not all TRE's have the same taper

Troy
04-30-2011, 01:48 PM
I'd run that shit

barracuda
04-30-2011, 02:00 PM
put it in with the spacer , tighten it up and keep an eye on it.

m j
04-30-2011, 07:53 PM
Not all TRE's have the same taper

just all the ones on american 4x4s are the same, or is there an ancient scout one that isnt that has no reason to be mentioned in this thread?

KINGCRUISER
05-01-2011, 09:58 AM
just all the ones on american 4x4s are the same, or is there an ancient scout one that isnt that has no reason to be mentioned in this thread?

Your an idiot, there is more than one standard taper on american TRE's. You have no buisness to post in this thread:fighting0071:

Bent Black
05-01-2011, 10:14 AM
drama really!!! 6 pages!!!!:D

4skin
05-01-2011, 12:59 PM
think the real idiot is the guy who machined it wrong

m j
05-01-2011, 02:08 PM
Your an idiot, there is more than one standard taper on american TRE's. You have no buisness to post in this thread:fighting0071:

so name the ones that are different then 1.5" per foot.

and it's YOU'RE

Punk in Drublic
05-01-2011, 02:39 PM
drama [stoned]

UU
05-01-2011, 10:50 PM
141919

mountain man
05-02-2011, 10:03 AM
Not Good!

zookiguy
05-02-2011, 11:38 AM
MJ you have a 1.5 degree taper per foot?7.13* From my research it seems that most domestic tie rods and ball joints use this same reamer.

I'm going to be ordedring this reamer unless I can find someone local to ream 3 holes for me.


I didnt read the whole thread but if i get the proper reamer you can recut what you need Kevin

Honky
05-02-2011, 12:31 PM
Ok Problem solved...Thanks B and D-ass for your help[cheers]


Here is a picture of all three TRE....

The top one is the old one that was on the Jeep( had to cut it off to get it off)

The 2nd one is the exact replacement and the one that is giving me grief with reaming out the pitman arm

The 3rd and the longest one is and it looks like it will work even BETTER then what I had. I don't think there will be a need to index my pitman arm because of the lenght of the threads!!!.....although I already did that. This should also give me more even steering

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/e58f12a6.jpg






This is a close up of the one B suggested to use. with another turn of the crown nut it looks like this will seat perfect to the tapper[36]

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/1fca39ec.jpg

barracuda
05-02-2011, 01:00 PM
show it without the nut on

Punk in Drublic
05-02-2011, 01:39 PM
you go girl!

StinkFinger
05-02-2011, 02:30 PM
Should of have just gone that route in the first place

Honky
05-02-2011, 03:33 PM
yes of course...if I knew that was even an option. I replaced what was on the jeep and that is where the trouble started

Chopstick
05-02-2011, 04:22 PM
you done yet??

A6D9
05-03-2011, 07:05 AM
I have to say...and this is not intended to be a dig towards anyone.

But Kevin, you made it clear you were not interested in going to jeep thrills.

and that is totaly cool you can decide where you go on your own for your own reasons...but even after sayign that....B saves the day and he was still giving great help and advice and proper help even tho he knew right away that kevin would not go there.

that is what I call a pretty bang up guy. If I lived near you all...if I ever needed any work to eb done....I think I'd be going to B. thanx for the showing to the world that not all ppl are idiots and can still be out there for good ppl.

again kevin this is not a dig towards you....i duno the detaisl but you had your reasons and i can respect that. :)

Honky
05-03-2011, 09:15 AM
That us because you dont know what the fuck you are talking about so why don't you shut the fuck up

Moondog
05-03-2011, 09:52 AM
That us because you dont know what the fuck you are talking about so why don't you shut the fuck up


Someone a little pissy this morning? The guy said he wasn't having a go at you Kev so why post this?



Not cool in my opinion..........

Pudge
05-03-2011, 11:42 AM
Someone a little pissy this morning? The guy said he wasn't having a go at you Kev so why post this?



Not cool in my opinion..........


:s30x: [stupid]

youngun
05-03-2011, 11:51 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Honky
05-03-2011, 11:53 AM
Look Iím getting really tired of this. Let me spell it out one last time. I am not nor ever will be a customer of Jeep Thrills for reason Iím not going to get into so leave it the fuck alone!

Having said that I do not have any grudge with them or the people that work there.

Yes itís vague but then again itís none of your fuckin business Ö..YES IíM GETTING PISSY ABOUT ANSWERING THIS SAME QUESTION


go fuck yourself

Papa Pete
05-03-2011, 11:58 AM
um nobody asked anything he was actually saying he respected you

Moondog
05-03-2011, 12:07 PM
um nobody asked anything he was actually saying he respected you

:s30x:

dirka dave
05-03-2011, 12:58 PM
Is it fixed yet ?