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regulate34
01-03-2011, 02:38 PM
i was running some bald 35in claws. and just went to 36" tsl's on 10 wide rim.
and now i got a pretty good wobble at around 45 and can power threw it and its gone at 55km. i have rotated tires around and its stays the same.
i have looked everything over and cant find any slop.
i am wondering if all i need is a steering stablizer.
and thoughts?

Chopstick
01-03-2011, 03:09 PM
steering stablizer or tires need balancing, nothings loose up front?

Moondog
01-03-2011, 03:10 PM
seperated tire

Evan the Blue
01-03-2011, 03:12 PM
bent rim ???

regulate34
01-03-2011, 03:39 PM
rims arent bent
i dont think a seperated tire
i have swaped them around and no diffrence
its only the front right tire that goes funkey
the tires arent balanced but you would think it would change when i change tires around on the truck
and when i am going 100km the truck is 1 finger smooth and nice to drive except for the howell wich i am starting to like

FU Toolbag
01-03-2011, 05:25 PM
Put on stabilizer and check your tie rod ends. Something is probably loose.

mus-Tard
01-03-2011, 06:08 PM
tire comming apart.
l have heard about an inside tire on a dualy comming appart and causing stearing issues

Moondog
01-03-2011, 07:31 PM
rims arent bent
i dont think a seperated tire
i have swaped them around and no diffrence
its only the front right tire that goes funkey
the tires arent balanced but you would think it would change when i change tires around on the truck
and when i am going 100km the truck is 1 finger smooth and nice to drive except for the howell wich i am starting to like


just because you moved the tire won't make a difference Lucas a seperated tire will cause alot of vibration through your vehicle and it will transfer into your steering as Trev just stated. Take them to a tire shop and get them checked out before you start throwing money at parts [cheers]

4skin
01-03-2011, 07:57 PM
there swampers good luck stopping it lol

regulate34
01-03-2011, 09:50 PM
well i got out their and had some help
and with the weight of the the veihical on the tires and motor running
i cralwed under as my dad wiggeled the steering wheel
the drag link to pitman arm had some slop
i am hoping thats the fix
i dont think i should be driving if for the time being

FU Toolbag
01-03-2011, 10:03 PM
If it was a separated tire it would blow apart at 100k. How about throwing money on probably worn out parts as opposed to throwing money at a tire shop getting them rebalanced. And if he doesn't have a stabilizer and he's running 36 tsl's, he should have a stabilizer anyways.

85chevy
01-03-2011, 10:27 PM
Most people put a stabilizer on and think that fixes the problem until the real problem gets worse and comes back so hopefully u found it in the drag link for the pitman arm and u have fixed the problem so if u put a new stabilizer on it won't just mask the problem

regulate34
01-04-2011, 09:43 PM
just ordered in all new linkags up front
drag link, tie rods and ends and axel pivot bushing
ball joints just done
then ill get a stabilizer in their as well

dirka dave
01-05-2011, 05:30 AM
Rotate the air in your tires....

Always broke
01-05-2011, 08:09 AM
I know it's very obvious to most but you did check the wheelbearings?

Usually a separated tire will shake at all speeds not just a short range .

Try jacking the truck up from below the ball joint on the suspected side and grab the tire top and bottom and shake then side to side check foe play that way it should get you closer to a diagnosis.

crazylike
01-05-2011, 09:59 AM
sounds like a seperated tire to me

regulate34
01-05-2011, 06:43 PM
wheel bearings are good
and its actuly both wheels wobbeling
two people makes a big diferance in finding problems
the drag like is slopy about 1/8 side to side
so i am betting on it
and everything is gonna be new after this one

Apathy
01-06-2011, 07:42 AM
to all of those that say run a stabilzer.
your all full of it.

steering stabiliers don't fix problems the mask them.

are you sure you have what is truely the deffinition of death wobble? wich is, the osilation of your tires left and right as you go down the road? or is it just a thumping and mild shaking.

TSLs are square tires, i have run them on the road lots. make sure your track bar bushings are 100%. if they are 99% you will get death wobble. I belive you havea cherocar, which are really bad for this anyway.

check bushings on track bar.. or just change them. give yourself a little more toe in on your tires, and put 10oz of airsoft pellets in each of them.

B
01-06-2011, 11:29 AM
to all of those that say run a stabilzer.
your all full of it.

steering stabiliers don't fix problems the mask them.

are you sure you have what is truely the deffinition of death wobble? wich is, the osilation of your tires left and right as you go down the road? or is it just a thumping and mild shaking.

TSLs are square tires, i have run them on the road lots. make sure your track bar bushings are 100%. if they are 99% you will get death wobble. I belive you havea cherocar, which are really bad for this anyway.

check bushings on track bar.. or just change them. give yourself a little more toe in on your tires, and put 10oz of airsoft pellets in each of them.



:s30x:


pathy is bang on .... but i don't think he has a cherrokee

'Balmer
01-06-2011, 01:11 PM
I also agree entirely.

4skin
01-07-2011, 12:13 AM
its a twin i beam ford no track bar
my 72 f250 had every thing new in the front end
900 16 michelin x militarys regroved unbalanced spooned on rims
put on truck no shake without stabiliser
q78 tsl swampers mounted on same rims balanced
shook so bad until i added stabiliser after replacing every thing else

Apathy
01-07-2011, 07:11 AM
twin I beam fords have a track bar.
all ford F100 and U100's have a track bar from at least 66 -79.
i have a ford coil spring front end.
the only time i had (death wobble) is when my hiems are fawked, or the one time i broke the mount. (on the tack bar)

i do not run a steering stablizer and for those who have rode with me in my rig, know that it doesn't need it. with 38" square tires.

regulate34
01-07-2011, 05:24 PM
twin I beam fords have a track bar.
all ford F100 and U100's have a track bar from at least 66 -79.
i have a ford coil spring front end.
the only time i had (death wobble) is when my hiems are fawked, or the one time i broke the mount. (on the tack bar)

i do not run a steering stablizer and for those who have rode with me in my rig, know that it doesn't need it. with 38" square tires.

i dont think so man

but anyway both tires wobble
its looks like both rims and super fucked when it starts to wobble

regulate34
01-07-2011, 05:26 PM
just like this (bad video sorry)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7cEOPYQFTs&feature=related

mus-Tard
01-07-2011, 06:30 PM
fuckered tires

FU Toolbag
01-07-2011, 06:41 PM
to all of those that say run a stabilzer.
your all full of it.

steering stabiliers don't fix problems the mask them.

I used to think they were just shit and a waist of time and money. My dump deck had occasional death wobble. There was no pattern or reason for it. Went through a boatload of parts, many alignment shops, and a lot of cash. Finally put on a stabilizer and never, I repeat, never had it again. I'm not standing on a soapbox here, but they are a useful part and they do do a job.

regulate34
01-07-2011, 09:07 PM
fuckered tires
no go fuck yourself

4skin
01-07-2011, 09:27 PM
twin I beam fords have a track bar.
all ford F100 and U100's have a track bar from at least 66 -79.
i have a ford coil spring front end.
the only time i had (death wobble) is when my hiems are fawked, or the one time i broke the mount. (on the tack bar)

i do not run a steering stablizer and for those who have rode with me in my rig, know that it doesn't need it. with 38" square tires.
yours is a straight axle jer his is two seperate pieces pivoting off frame
like a ranger explorer :D ford circled the problem
lucas are all your lift brackets tight
you had that one come lose did it oval out the mount holes?

Apathy
01-08-2011, 07:52 AM
yours is a straight axle jer his is two seperate pieces pivoting off frame
like a ranger explorer :D ford circled the problem
lucas are all your lift brackets tight
you had that one come lose did it oval out the mount holes?

what year are we talking about? you saying its a TTB.

we may be confusiont twin traction beam with twin I beam. the twin i beam was used to refer to mid-late 60's ford two wheel drive independent front suspension.
alot of people use it for the radius arm setup (which isn't really correct either).

sounds to me he's running twin traction crap, in that case, tie rod and drag ling ends with too much lift.