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fullsizebronco
10-08-2010, 04:28 PM
i just got a Lincoln Electric welder the weld pack 125HD i thought it was a gas welder turns out its not but still could not pass it up as i got a good deal on it just wondering everyone's opinion on it because im new to welding so im wondering what its capable of

4skin
10-08-2010, 04:58 PM
flux core sucks imho

Bushwack
10-08-2010, 05:00 PM
Great for sheet metal.
Dont trust for any structural welds

4skin
10-08-2010, 05:05 PM
sucks for sheet metal used it on a volvo ground it clean same as any mig welding patches body work lifted on every flux core weld not on the ones welded with gas

Troy
10-08-2010, 05:11 PM
garbage

buy a 220 volt machine, lincoln,miller,esab,hobart etc

Troy
10-08-2010, 05:13 PM
sucks for sheet metal used it on a volvo ground it clean same as any mig welding patches body work lifted on every flux core weld not on the ones welded with gas

thats a parameter and operator problem...

that thing should weld sheet metal and light guage stuff no problem... but for a 4x4 they are garbage

fullsizebronco
10-08-2010, 06:23 PM
ahhh lame maybe ill just sell it then... it said it would weld up to a 1/4 inch so i thought i could at least build bumpers with it ...

4skin
10-08-2010, 06:30 PM
some of them can have gas added to them depends on model

abec
10-08-2010, 06:46 PM
you can weld 1/4 inch with it just get some scrap and run a beads takes practice and time i use a big flux core machine at work and weld 1 inch plate with it if you need any help with setting up the machine let me know

Troy
10-08-2010, 07:46 PM
if your new to welding but actually want, and plan to use a welder for your truck or shop, get something that is actually decent.

first rule , its gotta be 220/230/240 volt input, one of the three

second , has to be easy to operate, so a mig wire machine is probably the best for user friendly. hardwire and c02 gas will be the cheapest and most economical consumables.

third, buy a good brand name machine, not no name knock off crap that is impossible to get parts for

my 2 cents.

fullsizebronco
10-08-2010, 09:05 PM
ahhh lame maybe ill just sell it then... it said it would weld up to a 1/4 inch so i thought i could at least build bumpers with it ...


it is a brand new machine i dont even think it was used once but it is set up with wire in it and i think it says i can buy the gas kit for it... if i did that would it be then worth my time ?

4skin
10-09-2010, 01:29 AM
yes it would be worth it to get gas kit should have fitting on back of welder
lots of guys build bumpers and brackets with 110 welders
we built a sandrail with a miller sidekick 110 volt welder
and beat the shit out of it for 2 years bent lots of tubeing but no welds failed
i would not recomend a inexperianced welder do structural welding no matter what voltage welder you have
just saying

epic3
10-09-2010, 11:45 AM
You can add gas to that lincoln and it will be much better. Flux core sucks compared to gas. I have a Lincoln 180c (not to be confused with the shitty CT 180) awesome welder even has a spool gun for aluminum. The 125 has a shitty duty cycle once you crank it for that matter any 120v machine sucks once you crank it.

Troy
10-09-2010, 03:43 PM
once you crank it for that matter any 120v machine sucks once you crank it.

thats what im getting at

barracuda
10-09-2010, 05:01 PM
can you feel the love:)

any machine is better then none.

use good form and work within the limitations of the machine.

remember that a welder should be thought of as an investment that you will use your moneys worth from.

LooseNuts
10-10-2010, 02:35 AM
flux core sucks imho


depends on the wire.

im going to say 99% of structural steel welded in a shop is done with flux core wire.

as far as a 110v welder goes its up to skill and how much time you want to spend and what you are welding.

you could weld 3/8th plate with it if you wanted. bevel it, pre heat the crap out of it, and spend the rest of the day running pass after pass after pass.

but then you run into duty cycle problems too.

im not familier with that welder, but lets just say it has a 20% duty cycle at 90 amps. that means you can run it at 90 amps for 2 minutes out of every 10 and need to let it cool down for 8.

in short, if you are going to be doing any sort of serious project a bigger machine is needed. if its just a few here and there things its not bad.

also id like to second what others have said about not welding "structural" stuff if your inexperienced. i have seen alot of pisspoor welding on rigs. it may hold for now, but its just scary.

fullsizebronco
10-10-2010, 12:13 PM
ya i would not be welding anything structural myself anyway... just bumpers and fixing my headache rack and adding tabs to it for lights i hope it i can get the hang of using the mig welder ....

4skin
10-10-2010, 12:26 PM
flux core sucks imho
actualy i meant gassles flux core sucks

fullsizebronco
10-10-2010, 01:31 PM
lol maybe ill just put this one up for sale and use the money to try and buy a bigger welder with gas i wont be able to get one with 220 until i buy a house lol but would like to get the best possible one for now i may use this one to fix a few panels on the truck first we will see haha just really hope i get that hang of it !

Troy
10-11-2010, 11:05 PM
every house has 220, you just need to install a double pole breaker and run a wire with a plug.

fullsizebronco
10-12-2010, 12:35 AM
haha i know but im renting a apartment and would rather not mess with it

abec
10-12-2010, 11:44 PM
a dryer plug or the plug for your stove is 220

Troy
10-13-2010, 07:34 PM
a dryer plug or the plug for your stove is 220

ya alls you need to do is get a dryer plug cord and snip the ends off and hook it up to your welder. or make an adapter that plugs into both

fullsizebronco
10-13-2010, 09:39 PM
haha i know about the stove and dryer thats how we ran my buddys stick welder out into his yard but being im in a 6plex apartment i dont have much of a place to be welding / keeping a bigger machine and my parking spots are all at the end of the lot so i would have to have like a 30 foot cord i will see what i can find if i get something cheap enough i will pick it up and in the meantime i will see if i can sell mine thanks for all the info guys

regulate34
10-14-2010, 09:53 PM
i am luckey i get to use a 3 phase miller wire feed at my work
i can melt threw 1in thick plate
get so hot i cant stand their and weld my hands burn threw my gloves

4skin
10-14-2010, 10:15 PM
i am luckey i get to use a 3 phase miller wire feed at my work
i can melt threw 1in thick plate
get so hot i cant stand their and weld my hands burn threw my gloves
thats cause you got girly man hands bitch :D

barracuda
10-14-2010, 11:58 PM
that doesnt sound lucky

dirka dave
10-15-2010, 09:24 AM
I have an old Lincon sp125, its 110v and will weld 3/16 no problem.

I have done 1/4 with it but its a bit slow.

It works great !

I also have a Miller trailblazer 302 with the extreme 12xvs suitcase. for bigger stuff.

I actually prefer to use stick on the big stuff.

I would like to get a Miller 255, but they are not cheap.

I have welded with good machines and crappy ones, each type has their own personality...

HOBART is also a good brand, stay away from the princess auto crap.

fullsizebronco
10-16-2010, 10:43 PM
i was at princess auto today and they also have Lincoln electric they have the 140 and 180 both with gas hookups on them but thats like 600 to 800 dollars and i have no idea what i could sell my HD125 for its brand new...