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Honky
06-22-2010, 09:55 PM
ok these maybe be stupid questions but here is goes.

I just replaced my inner and outer wheel bearings and a warn hub. When putting it back together the axle snap ring was damaged and needed to be replaced. When I ask at Napa for a replacement they said they don't carry them and they only come with new axles. That just doesn't seem right to me. I even showed him a picture and he said it's not needed.

can I get away with this not in place?

http://www.keystonekrawlers.com/tech/Mods/Jeep/DANA44%20Hub/INNERSNA.JPG

The 2nd thing I noticed was the spacing between the hub and the Warn locking switch. There is a gasket on it to stop the water from getting in but when i took it apart I didn't notice if it was flush or not. the other side is flush.

http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af58/Funinbc_honky/e0ed2275.jpg

Moondog
06-22-2010, 10:07 PM
Nice work boots[36]

pumpkin
06-22-2010, 10:15 PM
If it was there you need it.

Excessive
06-22-2010, 10:17 PM
Just my opinion but i'd say the snap ring was probably fairly important. Looks like it keeps the axle from popping out maybe? You could probably just find somewhere that sells snaps rings and match it up to the one that was originally on there. Or something that fits.

bobby b
06-22-2010, 10:29 PM
It's needed afaik.

I have a spare if ya need one( assuming that's a d44 hub, Warn 20990 I think ), but you should be able to find locally, try Acklands they carry snap rings under the Dynaline brand. Acklands catalog shows 'em at about 60 cents each.

robbie

FWIW one of my hubs does the same on one side, though not as big a gap. There should be an o-ring with the hub, I just added a little sealant around the small gap after the install, had 'em in and out a few times now and it all still seals up nicely.

4skin
06-22-2010, 11:18 PM
fords use same ones ie bronco sure you have one of those around
jim might get upset though so ive got some spares also have set of 2week old warn premium hubs w clips 50 bucks

OldEnuff
06-22-2010, 11:27 PM
fyi the standard warn hubs on the bronco "do not" use the circlip on the end of the stub shaft ,
however the hubs on the yellow menace are the same as the whoreJ:dontknow:

barracuda
06-22-2010, 11:46 PM
my warn hubs on my ford do?

they use a thinner then stock clip .

the factory ones are too thick when used with the warn hub

4skin
06-23-2010, 12:08 AM
seen hi pinion fords with clips and withoutclips
forgot[f][f]the clips hold seal on inside of spindle tight
kid at napa didnt want to look 4 you or cant think for himself

OldEnuff
06-23-2010, 12:20 AM
the '87 bronco I had did not have the clips either:dontknow:

4skin
06-23-2010, 12:33 AM
me dumm not look year of yours jim was thinking straight axte not ifs:dontknow: :D

OldEnuff
06-23-2010, 12:44 AM
the '85 is straight axle now, the '87 was ifs

Chopstick
06-23-2010, 12:59 AM
you need one!! go to lordco, napa is a rip off !! well they try to rip me off all the time!! i have them on my 44 but my warn hubs sits flush on my hub.. maybe your seal is binding somewhere and making it have a gap, did you lube the O-ring before re installing it?

Chopstick
06-23-2010, 01:00 AM
Nice work boots[36]

:eek: man this made me laugh when i saw this !!

barracuda
06-23-2010, 01:17 AM
mines a 3/4 ton axle so perhaps that is why it has the cllips???

Apathy
06-23-2010, 09:37 AM
that clip is important.
ask me how i know.
it keeps your axle located. if its not in, your axle can walk towards the pumpkin.
When the axle walks toward the pumpkin, the bearing surface on your stub shaft walks out of the pinion bearing, causing damage.

kev, if you can't get it in, put a pry bar behind the axle ujoint and push the stub shaft toward the lockout hub. sometimes its hard, as the seal on the backside of the spindle gets int eh way.

as for the hub not being in all the way, take it back apart, clean everythign completely, put some grease on the o-ring that is around the lockout hub.. tap it with a dead blow, it should go in.

85chevy
06-23-2010, 10:02 AM
Been a while since I had my front end apart but I think I had to pull the joint towards the hub a bit to get it to go then just pushed it back I could be wrong last time I had my axle apart was when I first got the truck and had the entire front end apart replacing all the worn out stuff and that was like 4 years ago now.

Apathy
06-23-2010, 10:04 AM
Been a while since I had my front end apart but I think I had to pull the joint towards the hub a bit to get it to go then just pushed it back I could be wrong last time I had my axle apart was when I first got the truck and had the entire front end apart replacing all the worn out stuff and that was like 4 years ago now.

you are 100% correct.

Ironman
06-23-2010, 11:51 AM
Burn it

Chopstick
06-23-2010, 03:38 PM
atleast you have all the proper tools!! i had to fix my wheel bearings in a best western parking lot in merritt with 2 flat head screwdrivers an a spindle nut socket

Apathy
06-24-2010, 09:23 AM
atleast you have all the proper tools!! i had to fix my wheel bearings in a best western parking lot in merritt with 2 flat head screwdrivers an a spindle nut socket

that aint shit, i've done it without the socket, and use a chise and hammer to change wheel bearings.:p

Ironman
06-24-2010, 10:47 AM
that aint shit, i've done it without the socket, and use a chise and hammer to change wheel bearings.:p


pffft, i yelled at mine till it changed itself once

Apathy
06-24-2010, 10:51 AM
pffft, i yelled at mine till it changed itself once

thats a good one!!!!![cheers]

Honky
06-27-2010, 07:17 PM
well I took the other side off and the bearing were in great shape. lots of grease but the bearing was seized onto the spindle. Had to use a puller to get it off. Bought a new bearing but it wont go on. The spindle looks like it has been heated up.......Question. is it worth trying to sand it down or should I just go get another spindle?

mini
06-27-2010, 07:42 PM
probably just needs to be dressed with some emory cloth

barracuda
06-27-2010, 07:45 PM
i think a 7 in angle grinder should be able to do it

Ironman
06-27-2010, 08:26 PM
i think a 7 in angle grinder should be able to do it

air arc would be a better option then a belt sander.










you shoulda burnt it kev

Ironman
06-27-2010, 08:27 PM
air arc would be a better option then a belt sander.or yell insults at it till it fixes itself










you shoulda burnt it kev

MacGyver
06-27-2010, 10:57 PM
Are you sure you got the right bearing, :dontknow: probably just burrs from where you pulled it off. Emory cloth should do the trick.

4skin
06-27-2010, 11:10 PM
looks more like chevy rust than heat kevim polish it up
emory cloth sandpaper good to go

4skin
06-27-2010, 11:11 PM
:dontknow: done yet[f]