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ryan01
05-25-2010, 12:45 PM
hey can some one give me a diagram on how everything goes togher? i have never done a standard tranny before.. and what gets bolted where thanks.

Tinker
05-25-2010, 04:12 PM
1st Clutch plate, 2nd pressure plate, bolted to the flywheel. Gonna need a clutch alignment tool or a broom stick and electrical tape. 3rd Throw out bearing on input shaft. Then bolt it all together. And if you are in there already I'd do your slave aswell (the piece bolted to the tranny)

Tinker
05-25-2010, 04:15 PM
Just noticed either you are from the future or setting the date on your camera is as tough as a clutch.:D

ryan01
05-25-2010, 05:51 PM
hahaha ya its got a new slave cylinder just curious what side goes on what for the clutch? like there 2 sides?

4skin
05-25-2010, 08:13 PM
flat side of disk towards fly wheel
first pix is fliwheel side
wont fit other way

ryan01
05-25-2010, 11:23 PM
ah ok thanks man goin to tackle it tommrow! i thought it would go the other way??? so the side with the "dual friction" tag goes against the fly wheel

Greggers
05-26-2010, 01:37 AM
Is this from an M5OD-R1 transmission? I'm probably opening mine up tomorrow due to the release bearing making a bunch of noise. What's the best place to get a clutch kit for it? Lordco, online?

Thanks!
--Greg.

4skin
05-26-2010, 01:42 AM
dont buy dyna pack clutch kits
havent had one work right yet

Greggers
05-26-2010, 01:54 AM
dont buy dyna pack clutch kits
havent had one work right yet


Good to know, thanks for the heads up!

mus-Tard
05-26-2010, 09:02 AM
dont forget to torque your toeque converter bolts to 75 in/lbs

Apathy
05-26-2010, 09:31 AM
dont forget to torque your toeque converter bolts to 75 in/lbs

manual tranny's dont have torque converters.

but you do need to locktite and torque your flywheel and pressue plate bolts.

ryan01
05-26-2010, 10:48 AM
yes. im going to look up fb/tq settings for that. but what way does the clutch go and yes this is a M50d my tranny was re done at mister transmission and they didnt re do the throw out bearing (on my old trans) and it fucked everything up in my trans so i had to buy a new one well used but new type thing and it came with that centreforce dual friction clutch. only 1500km on it so just confused on whhat side goes on what lol

Apathy
05-26-2010, 11:00 AM
yes. im going to look up fb/tq settings for that. but what way does the clutch go and yes this is a M50d my tranny was re done at mister transmission and they didnt re do the throw out bearing (on my old trans) and it fucked everything up in my trans so i had to buy a new one well used but new type thing and it came with that centreforce dual friction clutch. only 1500km on it so just confused on whhat side goes on what lol
seriously, it will only go together one way.

the flat side of the friction disk goes to the flywheel. If you try and put it in the other way, the springs will hit the flywheel and will not go together.

mus-Tard
05-26-2010, 09:18 PM
manual tranny's dont have torque converters.

but you do need to locktite and torque your flywheel and pressue plate bolts.


l know, just fuckin around.



fly wheel is totaly flat.
clutch has a raised side with the springs in it.
that fits into the open area inside the friction surface of the preasure plate


to get the shifter out, at the base of it take off the nut and tighten it down on the other side of the shifter. this will pull the retaining bolt out.

Greggers
05-26-2010, 10:09 PM
to get the shifter out, at the base of it take off the nut and tighten it down on the other side of the shifter. this will pull the retaining bolt out.

....Is it bad if I undid the 3 Torx bolts at the base, and just pulled the whole assembly out of the tranny? Made sure the tranny was in neutral when I did it. :confused:

ryan01
05-27-2010, 12:54 PM
so yesterday went some what smooth...the tranny cross member was horrible!!! not to mention all the sand that came down everytime we hit it with the impact gun lol and the bolts on the frame holding the x member on on the one side was bad cuz all the wires run thru there as well as fuel lines.... and for just taking out the torx bolts i think u will just have to maybe mess around a bit with the syncros.

mus-Tard
05-27-2010, 07:19 PM
....Is it bad if I undid the 3 Torx bolts at the base, and just pulled the whole assembly out of the tranny? Made sure the tranny was in neutral when I did it. :confused:


not realy. just opens up the top of your tower for shit to get in or bumped out of gear. then its a pain in the ass to get back in

ryan01
05-28-2010, 02:45 PM
quick question should i take out my t case or can i pull t case and tranny all at the same time ??? thanks ryan

mus-Tard
05-28-2010, 07:41 PM
you can pull them together but it may be easer to do them separate depending on your jack. the transmittion is hard enough to ballance on its own and its realy quick to take off the t-case.


and its a lot easer getting the tranny lined up to go back in if it doesn't have the t-case on it

regulate34
05-28-2010, 08:52 PM
i have 2 clutch allingment tools if you want one
i just put a LUK clutch in my ford and wow
wat a amazing feel
i have done the fenco shit before and they suck

regulate34
05-28-2010, 08:53 PM
and take the tcase off for sure
i tryed it without taking the tcase off and i was no happening

mus-Tard
05-28-2010, 09:04 PM
i have 2 clutch allingment tools if you want one
i just put a LUK clutch in my ford and wow
wat a amazing feel
i have done the fenco shit before and they suck


same.
fenco to luk.
luk is grabby

fordfarm
05-28-2010, 10:38 PM
don't be a wimp. leave them together and use a floor jack. I have done it that way lots of times

regulate34
05-28-2010, 10:54 PM
don't be a wimp. leave them together and use a floor jack. I have done it that way lots of times

use your head not you back

fordfarm
05-28-2010, 11:54 PM
I don't use my head or back, i use my hands. with a jack there is no lifting

Greggers
05-29-2010, 12:10 AM
Where'd you guys pick up your LUK clutches, and what did it run you?

mus-Tard
05-29-2010, 08:59 PM
Where'd you guys pick up your LUK clutches, and what did it run you?


had one sitting at work and my cost from them was $200

but you can get them through lordco. but l hate lordco so l would try napa or T&T first.

Greggers
05-29-2010, 09:04 PM
I tried Lordco, and they wanted something like $430 for the clutch kit + slave cylinder. Rock Auto has it for $333 CDN Shipped with Duty included, but even that kinda sucks still!! I figure it's the cheapest I'll get it though. :dontknow: :hitler:

mus-Tard
05-30-2010, 09:09 AM
yeah they arn't cheep. l just redid about everything from my foot to my hand. the hard line is about all that is left.
even had to weld up my firewall.
but fuck is that nice shifting.

ryan01
05-30-2010, 04:03 PM
k having a new problem how to get the clutch line off of the clutch master cylinder

Asshat
05-30-2010, 07:28 PM
oh thats a bit@@ you gotta push the white plastic sleeve into the fitting and that will release the line try small screwdrivers and lots o patience and clean the area really well first.

ryan01
05-30-2010, 07:50 PM
ive tried that and no go so i think im going to have to buy a new slave cylinder is there a way to get the line off the fluid res.?

mus-Tard
05-30-2010, 10:00 PM
master is at the top and is held inplace by a roll pin.

slave down below is held in by springs that is released by the white plastic ring (dont damage it). there is a special tool but can be done by a pair of screwdrivers or somthing of that nature.
http://z.about.com/d/autorepair/1/0/A/9/90998045.gif
what your trying to do is push it down to relive retaining springs from the line.

Reeseman
05-31-2010, 05:12 PM
LUK all the way. put one in the bronco a year ago and it is great

Greggers
06-05-2010, 09:57 AM
Changed it out! I replaced the clutch disk, pressure plate, pilot bearing, release bearing + slave cylinder! Feels good to have that done!

mus-Tard
06-05-2010, 12:46 PM
good on ya