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xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 12:44 PM
So I just dropped my jeep off at the mechanics for some tune up and other maintenance and gettin some other stuff done too..


First off addin three inches lift, installing sye kit, and if the gears match going to be putting an 8.8 rear end in(drum brake).. As well as wheel spacers to finish out the wheel wells... Will be adding long arm controls arms as well


And if all goes well will be selling the tires I have now and going with 35's or bigger...

Pics to follow as work is completed

bcmaxx
03-18-2010, 12:49 PM
I betcha cant wait!!! what kind of lift etc?

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 01:22 PM
Right now i just has four inch procomp...
But I've done some research of moving mounts and stuff so I'm going to add to my current lift but add shackles and different leaf mounts and either go spring spacer up front or try and find lift springs cheap..I already had the sye that I had bought for another jeep that didn't get it and then prolly cap it off with new shocks on all four corners.... Oh yeah the long Arms are being price out now and if I can't find a good deal then custom ones will be made


I'm more excited but the bigger tired and the 8.8 if the 8.8 works then a rear locker won't be far behind

C-Dog
03-18-2010, 01:37 PM
Right on man good stuff if everything goes wel with the 8.8 why not just weld it up or are u going ot go selectable locker ?

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 01:39 PM
I don't trust welding it and yes I would like selectable this jeep is my dd sometimes so selectable a must


And oh yeah I'm putting that bumper of yours on too getting a hitch reciever put on for a winch :)

C-Dog
03-18-2010, 01:45 PM
The 8.8 can handle it FkN MRK is a welded 8.8 they are a strong diff but i also know what ya mean about the DD thing lol.....Ihave a D35 with a detroit 4.10s and chromloy axles in my shed jsut waiting to go in...

'Balmer
03-18-2010, 01:47 PM
The best upgrade for an XJ is swappng to a full frame rig :D :D :D

Just buggin' man, sounds like some fine choices to me. Enjoy getting used to driving your rig again - my favorite part of upgades [36]

:party0010:

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 02:06 PM
I know eh it'll be a whole new truck again with new shocks and getting all u joints done too. Pumped and primed for spring

bcmaxx
03-18-2010, 02:11 PM
Right now i just has four inch procomp...
But I've done some research of moving mounts and stuff so I'm going to add to my current lift but add shackles and different leaf mounts and either go spring spacer up front or try and find lift springs cheap..I already had the sye that I had bought for another jeep that didn't get it and then prolly cap it off with new shocks on all four corners.... Oh yeah the long Arms are being price out now and if I can't find a good deal then custom ones will be made


I'm more excited but the bigger tired and the 8.8 if the 8.8 works then a rear locker won't be far behind

take lot lots of pics!! The 8.8 is a good upgrade! heres a nice install kit : http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/simple-spline-p-186.html
I ran these in the back, they really helped out the ride and flexquality and fixed up my shackle angles nicely: http://www.hdoffroadengineering.com/collections/frontpage/products/xj-shackle-relocation-kit

Spacers work pretty good ,I,ve had some in mine for a few years now, just remember when you go up higher other things need to be addressed like steering angles,track bar, etc.

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 02:17 PM
The mechanics a ticketed welder so it'll be custom mounts and such for the track bar and the thing I'm thinking bout doin while I'm down there is the streering flip??? I've seen that you can buy the Inserts for like ten bucks and all you have to do is drill it pit the inserts in and tie up the loose ends?? I've seen the kit at rustys or whatever but I think it can be done with out purchasing the expensive kit?

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 02:21 PM
Are the relocators brackets for te rear leafs needed if I'm not changing leafs??? I'm only dropping the perches maybe add a leaf down the road although the adjustability would be cool??

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 02:22 PM
And the 8.8 was the mechanics idea just had it sittin around he knows all bout the diff swap

bcmaxx
03-18-2010, 02:40 PM
I got tired of stock, tried rugged ridge steering and wasnt satisfied, Did a lot of research into over the knuckle. Guys say the "flipserts" eventually deform, crack or disintigrate. The steering could also possible hit the diff cover and interfere with stock sway bar brackets. I was going to go Jcr but instead went with Ironrock offroad heim joint bolt-on over the knuckle kit with 5/8s hardware upgrade. So far very much happy!

bcmaxx
03-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Are the relocators brackets for te rear leafs needed if I'm not changing leafs??? I'm only dropping the perches maybe add a leaf down the road although the adjustability would be cool?? More than anything just to dial in the shackle angle after changing or modifying springs, my cousins got a 4.5 kit with just extended shackles and he's happy. It made a big difference for my xj

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 02:45 PM
Cool thanks I'll see how it goes... I think the back and front leaf mounts will be moving proportionally together so hopefully but again adjustability...

Cool link thanks

Tinker
03-18-2010, 03:28 PM
Not trying to be a naysayer, but why the Poo comp lift? Don't think you'll be able to fit the 35's under:dontknow: , now an R.E. that can fit 35's.;)

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 03:49 PM
Sorry the truck already has the procomp lift in it I'm just adding to it...


I have already replaced the Tracy bar with the rubicon express one

Happypants
03-18-2010, 03:54 PM
I don't trust welding it and yes I would like selectable this jeep is my dd sometimes so selectable a must


And oh yeah I'm putting that bumper of yours on too getting a hitch reciever put on for a winch :)



Hello?!? I welded my 8.8 and I'm on 37s, weld the bitch and spend the cash saved on something else,

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 03:57 PM
Hello?!? I welded my 8.8 and I'm on 37s, weld the bitch and spend the cash saved on something else,


Trailer rig :dontknow: daily driver street rig


Plus with a selectable I get to put another switch in the cab.... I like switches

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 03:58 PM
.............

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 05:40 PM
Plus that's only buy me one of those lil hids you got

Happypants
03-18-2010, 05:51 PM
U seem to forget that I dd my jeep for close to 2 years with a welded rearend before it was a trailer truck, only reason I stopped driving it on the road was cause I was tired of gettin VI'S, 8 was enough,

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 06:15 PM
8 atta boy way to represent...

Ok if I put it this way maybe..... I don't want to weld my rear end if I get the 8.8 and i can afford to lock it properly why not...


*** Disclaimer*** this in no way says what I think about welding your ride.. I just don't want to... Welding your rear end is fine and I'm sure it holds up fine just not my bag at this point...

different strokes for different folks

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 06:16 PM
And btw I didn't know it was a road warrior before since I been here it's been ridin the trailer...

Tunabomber
03-18-2010, 07:03 PM
The best upgrade for an XJ is swappng to a full frame rig :D :D :D

Just buggin' man, sounds like some fine choices to me. Enjoy getting used to driving your rig again - my favorite part of upgades [36]

:party0010:



nope.....the best upgrade for a xj would be them hook thingys for you to hang the grocery bags on


[f]


where are the pics :dontknow:

xj-jamie
03-18-2010, 07:58 PM
It just got dropped off this afternoon and the 8.8 isn't first on the list I'll post pics as we go. I'm not able to even get out and see or help till monday soooo....stay tuned


Doin the sye kit install and general maintenace first then gonna the fun begins...

Happypants
03-18-2010, 10:15 PM
It just got dropped off this afternoon and the 8.8 isn't first on the list I'll post pics as we go. I'm not able to even get out and see or help till monday soooo....stay tuned


Doin the sye kit install and general maintenace first then gonna the fun begins...

How much they charging u to do the sye?? I can do one In a hour,

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 09:23 AM
Is that just the install alone or install removal rebinstall?? The guys pretty good I'm sure it's not and he does the driveshaft himself plus can't move the truck once it's apart cause the whole rear axles coming out

B
03-19-2010, 09:46 AM
How much they charging u to do the sye?? I can do one In a hour,


ya but when ya have to do it twice more it's really 3 hours ... [22] ...


go team hack and slash :D :D

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 09:51 AM
ya but when ya have to do it twice more it's really 3 hours ... [22] ...


go team hack and slash :D :D

That's what I'm trying to avoid.

Thanks for the offer nick.... But she sleeps where she lies till she's ready to go..

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 10:07 AM
I've run into a bit of a problem.... Doing my research on the net it's seem impossible to be able to find 6" lift coil springs and so I was looking for spring spacers and can only find 1.5 "... No I haven't talked to b yet at jeap but I'm trying to get the equivalen to 6" up front and already have the pop comp lift installed. So either new springs or spacers??

Happypants
03-19-2010, 11:48 AM
Is that just the install alone or install removal rebinstall?? The guys pretty good I'm sure it's not and he does the driveshaft himself plus can't move the truck once it's apart cause the whole rear axles coming out

In and out with install, and I only had to o it once after cause I split my t-case in half on fuct Bryson lol

bcmaxx
03-19-2010, 12:08 PM
I've run into a bit of a problem.... Doing my research on the net it's seem impossible to be able to find 6" lift coil springs and so I was looking for spring spacers and can only find 1.5 "... No I haven't talked to b yet at jeap but I'm trying to get the equivalen to 6" up front and already have the pop comp lift installed. So either new springs or spacers??
Hmm, re ones measeur 1/3/4" If I remember right, also use en extra stock coil isolator on each side. You should be close if they are 4" springs. My 3.5 inch pro poo springs are in my brothers jeep netting about stock height after 3 yrs. Or get them Aco's if your rich

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 12:08 PM
That's crazy isn't it like a 4-6 hour job???

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 12:11 PM
Ok I'll check out re and that's what I was thinking with the isolators. I honestly think I'm gonna be acing round 4" in the back so I need to make something work to at least within 1/2"??

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 12:12 PM
And the 4" springs I have now are still pretty stiff I'm sitting prolly just over three inches from oem

bcmaxx
03-19-2010, 12:14 PM
That's crazy isn't it like a 4-6 hour job???
I've done mine about and hour and a bit. Got good practice when I had the 242 case. Oh and a faulty tera 2 low mode selector right outta the box.

B
03-19-2010, 12:24 PM
That's crazy isn't it like a 4-6 hour job???

we charge 2.5 but that includes cleaning of the case while it's apart we prefer to inspect and not rush it's not difficult but it's better to do it once right and make sure everything else is in good working order ...

oh and the re 5.5 coils will be taller than most other peeps 6" coils anyways ;)

a 4" poocoomp coils measures about 3.5 installed a 4.5 rubicon measures about 5 " installed and rides way better :D :D

Happypants
03-19-2010, 12:27 PM
Rubicons the best, the 5.5" coils measure around 7 my 7.5" coils measure 9" over stock height,

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 01:07 PM
I'm in the area b ima stop in in a lil bit see what's up

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 02:00 PM
I lucked out on a set of 5.5 rubicon springs... That solves the front end lift...oh yeah


Thanks b [cheers]

xj-jamie
03-19-2010, 05:00 PM
Just picked up an 8.8 fer 150.... Can't wait

xj-jamie
03-23-2010, 07:07 PM
Well it's slow going but got the bumper on...had to hack off and reweld the passenger side at the 45 by the front headlight as it appeared to have taken some tree hits and somehow wasn't straight... Now just gonna grind off the old light mount tabs


It looks good definatley an upgrade over oe

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/jklove8388/2dd1e3b8.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/jklove8388/98c650c8.jpg

xj-jamie
03-24-2010, 11:33 AM
So I just found out the 8.8 I had lined up has the wrong gears... It has 3.73 and I have the 3.07 or whatever which is a 35 I believe???


So shitty deal but what does it take to make that 8.8 work??

xj-jamie
03-24-2010, 11:50 AM
what's the biggest tire combo you can punish a d35 safely???

Happypants
03-24-2010, 12:25 PM
31s if u don't polish it

B
03-24-2010, 12:26 PM
3:73's in the front to make it work do the swap throw the turdy five away

Happypants
03-24-2010, 12:28 PM
So I just found out the 8.8 I had lined up has the wrong gears... It has 3.73 and I have the 3.07 or whatever which is a 35 I believe???


So shitty deal but what does it take to make that 8.8 work??

Change the front gears then and run 3.73's, do u not plan on having any crawl ratio if you keep the 3.07 gears??? What I would do if I were you is get a new ring and pinion and carrier for the d30 and match the rear gears or you will kill your engine in no time if u plan on running 36's and 3.07 gears

xj-jamie
03-24-2010, 12:30 PM
3:73's in the front to make it work do the swap throw the turdy five away

found a wicked deal on 373s for te Dana 30....


My only question is if I swapped out the rear to run 35s how is te front gonna handle them, I am not harder on my truck than I need to be or is that where the 3.73 gearing comes in

Happypants
03-24-2010, 03:38 PM
With a open d30 u will be fine, jj and I have only broken the drivers side axleshafts that's all, he's on 35s I'm on 37s with beadlocks, don't worry about it till ya lock it ;)

bcmaxx
03-24-2010, 04:22 PM
Isn't 3:73's and 35's gonna suck? I have 4:11's outta a 4banger and 33's and I hate it. Look to upgrade your axles to at least 95+ jx/tj/yj with abs- Bigger joint 297/760 should help your u-joints live. I was poppin the stock little ones every 2nd trip out on 31's. I now run alloy chromos and spicer joints and an aussie, yet to have a breakage. But I'm prepared sucks when a joint goes i9n the bush with no tools to even remove the broken stuff and just run the stub to limp home. You should look around for some 4:11 axles. I got my front d30 for $150- just needed ball joints, got a rear 8.8 with lsd for 400 out of an 06 mada /ranger thing.

xj-jamie
03-24-2010, 04:47 PM
I wish I called around 450 at one place 750 at another what a joke that's what I say. So I think I'm just gonna match the gears in the d30 and yada yada

Happypants
03-24-2010, 05:29 PM
I wish I called around 450 at one place 750 at another what a joke that's what I say. So I think I'm just gonna match the gears in the d30 and yada yada

try I.W.E rear ends only and ask them if they have any good used 3.73 gear sets for a d30, i picked my ring and pinion up from them for 120 bucks, got a new carrier for 50 and install kit for 100 bucks, had it all installed for 250 bucks,

xj-jamie
03-25-2010, 09:37 AM
That's where I got it from I got a friend there they hooked me up real good

xj-jamie
03-25-2010, 09:41 AM
And ya I'm gonna throw the 373 in do the 8.8in the rear and may just stick to fatty 33s and call er a day

Chopstick
03-25-2010, 06:11 PM
i ran 33s on my d30 with 307 gears an i went through 3 diffs hahaha

xj-jamie
03-25-2010, 06:26 PM
I've got 32x10 and haven't had any sort of any issue so I'm kinda surprised that it's crippling with 33

xj-jamie
03-29-2010, 09:25 AM
so the shackles went into the rear as well as the 6" front coils and 2" spacers into the front

decided just to go with stock ranger lift blocks(around 2") instead of doing the leaf drop brackets.... After talking with a few people the unanimous word was that it may be skecth "welding metal to shit"...


So to avoid wrap we upped the ubolts thickness and the ranger lift blocks have a fair bit of surface are so it should be ok...

More pics to come

tcase coming out next for sye and then doing the 8.8.