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epic3
01-14-2010, 11:07 AM
My new daily is a ZJ 93 grand Laredo full time nothin fancy. Its got death wobble at 70 what causes it before I just start randomly replacing parts.
It was a beater needing work so I just put in new bearings new 2" spacer lift new shocks new upper ball joints. Some other maint but thats it for suspension.
Other then that it runs and drives great.
So what causes death wobble. I'd like to know before randomly replacing parts.

B
01-14-2010, 11:26 AM
track bar ... check both eds for play ...

lay under the truck while your bitch works the wheel back and forth ...


and i have your tube clamps here :)

epic3
01-14-2010, 11:41 AM
thanks B

England
01-14-2010, 11:54 AM
And check yer shocks also

crazylike
01-14-2010, 12:15 PM
check yout tires for seperation or out of balance and make sure your bearings are adjusted properly.

Apathy
01-14-2010, 12:27 PM
on another note phil.. ANY movment, i'm talking .5mm will cause wobble in those things.

I changed a couple that should have been OK, but after changing them the wobble was gone

Nutbar
01-14-2010, 01:22 PM
You have to make sure that all the suspension parts are in GOOD shape, as Jer said, any play in any joint on the steering and suspension will cause death wobble in those guys especially when you do the budget boost lift in them. I think the extra weight of the Grands on that Jeep suspension makes any issues even worse than the TJs and XJs

Also have the caster checked on it since you guys did the budget boost on it you can adjust the caster with the lower control arms on those guys. You only want 0 to 3 degrees max any more and they can get death wobble.

DIRTDIGGLER
01-14-2010, 01:26 PM
Check your toe in should be 1/8 I believe and track bar both ends. Bottom bolt hole may be rounded out and or worn out bushing good luck.

epic3
01-18-2010, 11:59 PM
Soooo I replaced the track bar with a shiny new one as the orig was a little worn at the bj end and I adjusted my caster so its closer to 3 degs and now it only seems to death wobble while braking from 65-60. Ive driven it up to 100 with no issues just when braking.
anyone with experience in this?

And when its DWing if I hit the gas it smooths out should I just continue fucking with my caster?

D-Ass
01-19-2010, 12:08 AM
it's a jeep they are made to do that! what size tires are you running mine dose it because my drag link would flex when I hit a pot hole or bump in the road

Nutbar
01-19-2010, 12:25 AM
Did you adjust the tow back out after you did the budget boost, don't forget the steering link set up is an Inverted Y system so as you lift the truck the steering links automatically tow in more

and how are the rotors and brakes on this thing?

epic3
01-19-2010, 12:27 AM
Did you adjust the tow back out after you did the budget boost, don't forget the steering link set up is an Inverted Y system so as you lift the truck the steering links automatically tow in more

No Mike I never thought of that. I'll try that tomorow[cheers]

BCREDXJ Ive got 32 inch bfg at tires

Cheeky
01-19-2010, 01:24 AM
Phil,Sarahs had a 3" rancho lift and had death wobble(guy knocked the price down a grand cause he couldnt figure it out) took it to langley for a 4 wheel alighment and it was better but still a little...called back the aliighnment place and he said was all tight and set up right:dontknow:

I was kinda pissed but it wasnt that bad for me but the wife had to drive it;)

Changed the steering shock for a aftermarket one and we drove it for 2 years no wobble:dontknow: Dont know if that will help ya[cheers]

epic3
01-19-2010, 09:54 AM
I did think about the steering damper I might even have one kickin around the shop

Apathy
01-19-2010, 10:24 AM
you are bringing the snout arnt you?

epic3
01-19-2010, 11:04 AM
you are bringing the snout arnt you?

Yes but this is my daily driver

England
01-19-2010, 11:33 AM
Didnt I say shocks ....Jeez i wasnt kidding ended up being the cause of mine

epic3
01-19-2010, 12:21 PM
shocks are good steering stabilizer is different.

but on a side note this thing is bad on fuel 25 bucks got me 100km's is that normal thats in the city I havent taken it on the hwy yet

Apathy
01-19-2010, 12:23 PM
shocks are good steering stabilizer is different.

but on a side note this thing is bad on fuel 25 bucks got me 100km's is that normal thats in the city I havent taken it on the hwy yet

im not sure exactly what the milage is on them.. but i konw they are bad

and about the snout.. fuck you had me worried.

Cheeky
01-19-2010, 12:35 PM
shocks are good steering stabilizer is different.

but on a side note this thing is bad on fuel 25 bucks got me 100km's is that normal thats in the city I havent taken it on the hwy yet


That is exactly why we sold ours,awsome all around exploring rig but cost my 40.00 every two days for the wife to tool around town:mad: Everytime I got in the thing it cost me 40.00:eek:

85chevy
01-19-2010, 01:04 PM
New Steering shock just masks the problem till the shock wears out again.

B
01-19-2010, 01:07 PM
New Steering shock just masks the problem till the shock wears out again.



ding .... we have a winner ... [cheers]

Cheeky
01-19-2010, 01:10 PM
New Steering shock just masks the problem till the shock wears out again.


yes you are correct,but after spending x amount of money,for a ride he more then likeley wont keep for any amount of time,try the stabilizer,if it Masked it for a year,money well spent;)


And ding motherfuker ding---I am the winner:p

Pudge
01-19-2010, 01:32 PM
Harris, truck looked good with out the gold bars, lol......oh, and more shots of the ace in that pic :)

epic3
01-19-2010, 04:44 PM
New Steering shock just masks the problem till the shock wears out again.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Not my problem I wont be keeping it long enough for that to be an issue

epic3
01-20-2010, 12:30 AM
well I picked up a new toy once this issue is fixed if I cant convince the woman to drive this it might be up for sale

dirka dave
01-20-2010, 06:20 AM
Randomly replace parts until its a Toyota 4runner.


:D

epic3
01-24-2010, 04:49 PM
I was thinkin bout welding the rear in this what have I got against me in doing this? I've got 32x11.5 tires on it just all terrains do I have to worry about axle breakage? Tire wear I'm not concerned with.